Who Wins Todays Canadian Election?

@djjd62,

We haven't had a leader anyone can accuse of xenophobia for almost 8 years now.

@Finn dAbuzz,

maybe it wasn't clear that our ousted PM was a conservative, he thought much like the conservatives i tend to see in the US

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

our former leader was an american style conservative, he ran a campaign of fear, xenophobia and division

we were loathe to follow you, we got rid of him

And the Canadians wanted him boss for 10 years. And even the most far to the Left talk like they know that Canada was moved to the right by him so deeply that it would take a decade or more of hard work to put it back were it was.

Let's try to talk honestly MKay? You are usually one of the more open and fair minded people around here.

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@hawkeye10,

some canadians wanted him, the liberals had two very week leaders in the previous elections

in harpers tenure he led one minority government and two majority governments, neither of his majorities contained as many seats as the liberals won this time around, though he did gain seats in each of the two majorities

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

maybe it wasn't clear that our ousted PM was a conservative, he thought much like the conservatives i tend to see in the US

I know where Harper stands on the political spectrum, but we haven't had conservative in the White House for some time now so whatever you think of US conservatives, Canadians weren't bucking an American trend in electing Trudeau. Quite the opposite. It took you a while but you've now got on board with America's desire for a cool, photogenic, eloquent socialist.

Oh and I think you may have missed the subtly of my response.

Your assessment of Harper and US conservatives is that their rhetoric and policies are filled with "fear, xenophobia and division"

I can't predict how Trudeau will govern, but our cool, photogenic and eloquent socialist has been quite fond of fear and division.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

You forget that outside of the US, a number of us see Obama and the American Democratic party as right-wing and conservative. *

It may feel centrist or even left to some Americans, but it doesn't look that way on a global political spectrum.

(yeah, yeah, I know, I've been told over and over, the global political spectrum doesn't matter, only the American perspective matters)

* some American political pundits have id'd the slide of the Democrats to the right over the past couple of decades. A2k's overall centre right bias demonstrates that every day.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

the global political spectrum doesn't matter, only the American perspective matters

Someone else finally gets it!!

Razz

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@ehBeth,

No, I don't forget, I just dismiss it and not because the American political spectrum is all that matters.

dj wasn't referring to Obama or Democrats when he referenced US conservatives.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

(yeah, yeah, I know, I've been told over and over, the global political spectrum doesn't matter, only the American perspective matters)

Unfortunately a sizable chunk of that electorate wouldn't look out of place in an apocalyptic road movie.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

ehBeth wrote:
(yeah, yeah, I know, I've been told over and over, the global political spectrum doesn't matter, only the American perspective matters)

Unfortunately a sizable chunk of that electorate wouldn't look out of place in an apocalyptic road movie.

That's cause they will have the guns and be slave driving your limey ass.

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@McGentrix,

Like you, they've not got the brains, too much inbreeding.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

another thought on this, i tend to forget that you guys only have one leader at a time, meaning, after the election the party that doesn't form the presidency goes back to the drawing board, we have party leaders no matter the election results

so instead of leader in my comments think more party hopefuls, the current crop of republicans clamouring for top spot fit my description in one way or another

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As a Canadian I placed my vote against Harper for a variety of reasons such as his paranoid stance on so-called "anti-terror legislation" as per Bill C51, and his puritanical beliefs as to marijuana, prostitution and minimum mandatory sentencing, plus his specious claims of steering the Canadian economy, plus his membership and support of the Christian and Missionary Alliance (an evangelical church) .

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@McGentrix,

And they would all have good teeth.

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@djjd62,

We have Party Leaders too and they could run the House and Senate as the GOP leaders now do. I get it, you don't like our Republicans. That's fine, I don't like your Liberals or the members of the other major party. And it really doesn't matter whether Canadians follow Americans, even though many of you seem thin skinned about it. "O Canada!" You're great neighbors, even when you elect Socialists, because we depend on each other in different ways.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Don't talk rot. The standard of American teeth is well below that of the UK. It's your health system.

Quote:

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's (OECD) figures, the average number of missing or filled teeth for a 12-year-old in the UK in 2008 (the latest figures available) was 0.7. This was the joint best rating that year.

The last figure reported by the OECD for the US, in 2004, was 1.3 - when the UK also got 0.7. The UK's decay and replacement rates started falling below those of the US during the mid-1990s.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32883893<br />

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@Finn dAbuzz,

You don't like the Liberals.

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they are one of Canada's right -of-centre parties.

ok, only slightly right of centre, but they're not NDP or Green and far enough right that I've never been able to vote for them.

On a US scale, I'd put them between Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush. Not wildly right-wing, but right of centre.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Interesting, the other majority party is the conservatives

As for liking your republicans or not, I was simply saying, our former conservative prime minister (and now former party leader) reminded me and many Canadians of what we see as the worst of an american style conservatism

A few years back the Conservative Party of Canada was known as the Progressive Conservative Party, a fringe group from the west, influenced heavily by a right wing christian agenda, the Reform Party, gained strength and eventually merged with the PC, bringing a much more tea party like essence to the group, they dropped the Progressive label becoming the Conservative Party

I was quite fond of the PC's, the C's not so muc

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@djjd62,

yup. I miss the Red Tories. People like Robert Stanfield and Flora McDonald.

They were more like today's Green party than today's Conservative party.

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@ehBeth,

I was delighted to hear Joe Clark interviewed after the elections, he doesn't our leaders tend to disappear after they leave the public eye

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