theglitcher2016
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:17 pm
@Glennn,
Just because someone is your friend does not mean that they cannot hold a position of authority over you. In that case James could simultaneously be Rudolfo's friend, and Rudolfo's coach.
Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:21 pm
@theglitcher2016,
Having criticized others for losing their own things, Rudolpho was humbled at the prospect of having to ask his teammate , James, if he could find his bat.

Now what?
theglitcher2016
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:29 pm
@Glennn,
What if Rudolfo knows that he lost his bat in James's house. In that case he would have to ask permission to find it.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:32 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Rudolfo asked James, "Can you help find my bat?"


I complete the task that you asked for and you ignore it; one sentence, no third party dialogue reference, and no use of the name to designate ownership.
Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:38 pm
@theglitcher2016,
Having criticized others for misplacing equipment at the ballpark, Rudolpho was too embarrassed to ask his teammate , James, if he could find his bat.

Now what?
theglitcher2016
 
  0  
Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:40 pm
@parados,
What if Rudolfo asked that question sarcastically and but didn't really mean it. Maybe James told a story involving a bat, and Rudolfo asked that as a joke. This could be interpreted in multiple ways.
theglitcher2016
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:44 pm
@Glennn,
"...Rudolfo was too embarrassed to ask his teammate..."

If Rudolfo was too embarrassed to ask James, then the sentence doesn't complete the goal of representing what the original statement was trying to say.
Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:46 pm
@theglitcher2016,
Having criticized others for misplacing equipment at the ballpark, Rudolpho felt embarrassed after asking his teammate , James, if he could find his bat.

Now what?
theglitcher2016
 
  0  
Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:50 pm
@Glennn,
Let's say Rudolfo was at the ballpark. He then criticized others for misplacing equipment, thus giving us "Having criticized others for misplacing equipment at the ballpark...". This gives multiple interpretations.
Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:56 pm
@theglitcher2016,
"Having criticized others for misplacing equipment at the ballpark" is simply an explanation for his embarrassment. His embarrassment is due to the fact that he had to ask James where his bat is. If it were James' bat, there would be no embarrassment on Rudolpho's part.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 03:59 pm
@theglitcher2016,
So, you are now changing the parameters of what the sentence has to contain?

Every statement can be seen as sarcastic if one wishes to do so. You asked for a simple statement that designates ownership. I provided as much.

If you want to act like an idiot, feel free. (<---- There is no sarcasm in that statement in case you were unable to tell nor was I telling a story involving an idiot.)
Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:07 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Rudolfo asked James, "Can you help find my bat?"

How do we know Rudolpho wasn't dreaming? Laughing
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theglitcher2016
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:10 pm
@Glennn,
Even if it is, the sentence does not clarify if Rudolfo criticized others in the ballpark, or if they left their equipment in the ballpark and Rudolfo criticized for that. Even if the sentence must be interpreted as Rudolfo asking James for Rudolfo's bat, there are multiple ways to interpret it.
Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:14 pm
All I know is that if I ever meet a guy named Rudolpho, I'm bound to not like him right from the git-go after this. And if Rudolpho exists, I hope he never finds his bat. And if James exists, I hope he he doesn't help Rudolpho find his bat . . . even if he knows where it is.
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theglitcher2016
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:15 pm
@parados,
Actually there are ways to force a statement to be unsarcastic. In your sentence, it had the option to be interpreted as sarcastic, therefore even if it did complete the goal of designating ownership, it does not complete the goal of only having one logical way to interpret it.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:20 pm
@theglitcher2016,
Having criticized others for losing baseball equipment at the ballpark during games, Rudolpho felt embarrassed after asking his teammate , James, if he could find his bat.

Now what?
boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:25 pm
Rudolpho lost his bat; he asked James to find it.
theglitcher2016
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:25 pm
@Glennn,
The same thing here, it can be interpreted that people lost their baseball equipment at the ballpark during games, and Rudolfo criticized them for that, or it can be interpreted that Rudolfo was at the ballpark during games, and then criticized others for losing baseball equipment, regardless of where or when they lost it. Multiple interpretations.
theglitcher2016
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:28 pm
@boomerang,
Even though the sentence is separated by a semicolon, we do not the context, and therefore the term 'his' is unclear, it could be referring to another James. Therefore it can be viewed that Rudolfo lost James's bat, and it can be viewed that Rudolfo lost his own bat. Multiple interpretations.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2015 04:28 pm
@theglitcher2016,
Having criticized other team members for losing their bats at the ballpark, Rudolpho felt embarrassed after asking his teammate , James, if he could help find his bat.
 

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