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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 11:18 am
My teacher, when I was a student decades ago, told me
-The prickles hurt you.
is wrong if we are talking about roses, and only 'thorns' is correct, never 'prickles'.

But just now I ran a search, and some people say
-Roses do not have thorns but prickles.

Who is the correct one? I am utterly confused.
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 11:25 am
In common language the terms thorn and prickle are used more or less interchangeably, but in botanical terms, thorns are derived from shoots (so they can be branched or not, they can have leaves or not, and they arise from a bud), and prickles are derived from the epidermis

This is a picture labelled "Rose prickles" on Wikipedia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Rose_Prickles.jpg/79px-Rose_Prickles.jpg

In this picture, a thorn is on the left, and a prickle on the right. The sharp things on roses are prickles to a botanist.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Diferencia_espina_y_aguij%C3%B3n.jpg/120px-Diferencia_espina_y_aguij%C3%B3n.jpg

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prickle


Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 01:13 pm
"Prick" is an Old English survival meaning a small, sharp pain, or source of discomfort. The second witch in Shakespeare's Macbeth signals the arrival of the title character when she says: By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 01:21 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Thank you for that, Tes. It's not everyday.....
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 03:53 pm
@dalehileman,
I once read a story in an English newspaper about a court case brought by a woman who was suing a number of defendants jointly for defamation. She alleged that they had spread stories that she was promiscuous, each individual story not terribly serious, but the cumulative effect being very damaging to her reputation. This was an important legal point of her case. The judge helpfully and innocently suggested that she had suffered a "death of a thousand pricks" following which the case had to be adjourned for ten minutes so that everybody (judge, plaintiff, defendants, lawyers and jury) could stop laughing. I do not know the outcome.
McTag
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 04:36 pm
@WBYeats,

Quote:
But just now I ran a search, and some people say
-Roses do not have thorns but prickles.


Roses have thorns.

"Prickle" is not a good word for this, imho.
In fact, it's a kind of baby-language word. It's silly.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 04:43 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Tes I shall remember that one, tell my boys
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WBYeats
 
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Reply Thu 13 Aug, 2015 11:52 pm
Thank you all.
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 12:48 am
@McTag,
McTag, infantile or not, 'prickle' is the correct botanical term.
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 14 Aug, 2015 02:48 am
@Tes yeux noirs,

Okay.
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