Death Penalty

You're a brat SCoates, lol!

I posted this somewhere else on a death penalty thread--maybe here on A2K or maybe somewhere else, I can't remember--but SCoates' comment re a 'voluntary' death penalty reminded me:

Some years ago there was a Kurt Russell movie "Escape From New York". The concept was Manhattan Island being converted into a massive maximum security prison. There were no guards on the island....only around the perimeter boats and helicopters. Anybody going into the water was immediately shot. The people on the 'prison island' formed their own society. Food, meds, and clothing were dropped in via helicopter, but otherwise they were on their own. Those who were there were there for life. No opportunity for parole. Of course the society they created there was very akin to my visions of hell.

The worst criminals were given a choice: lethal injection on the spot or they could go to the island for life.

Now we would probably never get this past Amnesty International, but would it be acceptable to those who can't accept any idea of a mandatory death penalty? It would require all the non criminals to move out of Manhattan of course.

No way Fox, that sounds just like Australia and we all know how that turned out!

It seems to me that most would be against voluntary death. But to avoid it in favor of punishment worse than death is more barbaric in my opinion. Shouldn't the convict be allowed to decide which is worse.

Scarce few would choose death SCoates. It's damn near impossible to stop a man from committing suicide for any length of time if he really wants to... yet not too many do. Think about it.

I think it's too scary to do it to yourself. I can't imagine choosing life in prison over death.

I think I'd rather die then spending the rest of my life in jail.

here's what you said about torture:



how does this not fit your definition of torture?

and exactly what words did i put in your mouth?

I have to admit, Mon, I found that a little low myself. Do you really want anyone to suffer?

Obill writes:


ROFL.

I was just reading about Glen Campbell's current incarceration tonight. He's doing time in the Maricopa County minimum security 'tent city' in the Arizona desert. Now mind you the temperature gets waaaaaay up there in southern Arizona this time of year. But he would probably choose that over an unsupervised Manhattan island prison camp.

(He's also doing concerts for the other inmates which I think is kinda cool.)

Thinking about Scoates question:

Is it humane to give a prisoner a choice between lethal injection and life in hell (on Manhattan Island?) Yeah. For those who deserve the death penalty I think it could be an option. At least it might satisfy those who oppose the death penalty for any reason.

oh and scoates, why are you such an ass? you ask for opionoins, i give my straight opinions, i didnt insult anyone, and you call me a pompous ass.

I don't think offering death as an option is bound to satisfy the masses. I can already hear sirens blaring, and we're just discussing the concept. I believe it is more humane than incarceration, which I view as a form of torture, albeit often mandatory.

I did not mention torture. Torture and being in jail are 2 different things!

Yep. Better than the US!

I could argue that, but it would just be to be annoying.

I think that it is probably torture for most. Most inmates would gladly undergo some torture in exchange for their sentence. IMO.

You're just itching, aren't you?

I was just joking around with Montana. She said I don't put words in her mouth, so I changed her words to say something mean. You were just a civilian casualty. I am sorry I offended you though, I didn't think it would.

Hey SCoates, I think Stuh was addressing you with a question ;-)

LOL!