What is the origin of the he'll fire teaching?

2) There is eternal punishment in Hell for people who don't believe in God and accept Jesus. For them there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

We have a first death and a second death, but no third death.

The point being that I categorically reject the idea of God around punishing people

20I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God. For if righteousness comes through the law, Christ died for nothing.

The Quran uses a number of different terms and phrases to refer to hell. Al-nar (the fire) is used 125 times, jahannam 77 times, jaheem (blazing flames) 26 times. One collection of Quranic descriptions of hell include "rather specific indications of the tortures of the Fire": flames that crackle and roar; fierce, boiling waters, scorching wind, and black smoke, roaring and boiling as if it would burst with rage. Its wretched inhabitants sigh and wail, their scorched skins are constantly exchanged for new ones so that they can taste the torment anew, drink festering water and though death appears on all sides they cannot die. They are linked together in chains of 70 cubits, wearing pitch for clothing and fire on their faces have boiling water that will be poured over their heads, melting their insides as well as their skins, and hooks of iron to drag them back should they try to escape, their remorseful admissions of wrongdoing and pleading for forgiveness are in vain.

The description of Jahannam as a place of blazing fire appears in almost every verse in the Quran describing hell. Jahannam is described as being located below heaven, having seven gates, each for a specific group or at least a different "portion" or "party" of sinners. The Quran also mentions wrongdoers having "degrees (or ranks) according to their deeds" which some scholars believe refers to the seven gates. The one mention of levels of hell is that hypocrites will be found in its very bottom.

The Quran mentions three different sources of food in hell:
- Ḍari‘, a dry desert plant that is full of thorns and fails to relieve hunger or sustain a person (Q88:6);
- ghislin, which is only mentioned once (in Q69:36, which states that it is the only nourishment in hell);
- zaqqum is mentioned three times.

Evidently some people are troubling you and trying to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse! 9As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be under a curse!

I reject this, because "God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten Son to the end that all who believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life."

"What is man that You are mindful of him, or the son of man that You care for him? 7You made him a little lower than the angels; You crowned him with glory and honor 8and placed everything under his feet. "

The Body of Christ

12The body is a unit, though it is composed of many parts. And although its parts are many, they all form one body. So it is with Christ. 13For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free, and we were all given one Spirit to drink.

14For the body does not consist of one part, but of many. 15If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 17If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be?

18But in fact, God has arranged the members of the body, every one of them, according to His design. 19If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

So then you're accusing me of not believing in him?

You say only Jesus can never actually die. But we are the Body of Christ.

We should not place our faith in humans but in God.

I do not place my faith in is Deceivers. Those who teach false gospels to try to undermine the faith of others.

"All" of us are intended as the body of Christ.

God is an immaterial being—not a physical being (Jn. 1:18; 4:24; 1 Tim. 1:17; 6:15-16). Thus God is not anatomically masculine. And yet, the Bible refers to God as a He—not a She. Is this because the Bible is chauvinistic or misogynistic?

Of course not. God is called a “Him,” because calling God an “It” would make him impersonal. Since God is a personal being, he needed to express himself with a gender. But why the male gender?

According to the Bible, gender distinctions are not merely the construction of cultures or societies. Scripture teaches that humans were created with different genders and these carry different, important qualities. Hopefully, we love both our father and mother, but we relate to them differently. Paul notes that mothers have a certain tenderness for their children that fathers do not have (1 Thess. 2:7). Moreover, fathers have an encouraging and exhorting role that mothers do not have (1 Thess. 2:11). God wanted us to relate to him specifically as a father (Mt. 6:9; Gal. 4:6), and this is because he wants to play that specific role as a leader in our lives.

Finally, we shouldn’t ignore the feminine qualities that God expresses. For instance, God gives birth to Israel (Deut. 32:18); God nurses believers like a mother (Ps. 131:2); God is called a mother in labor (Isa. 42:14); God describes himself as a mother bear and a lioness (Hos. 13:8); he also describes himself as a female hen who desires to “gather her chicks under her wings” (Mt. 23:37). Moreover, even Paul speaks of himself as a mother giving birth to the Galatian believers, using clear feminine imagery (Gal. 4:19). For these reasons, the Bible depicts God as masculine, but he also expresses feminine qualities as well.

In the day that God created man, He made him in His own likeness. 2Male and female He created them, and He blessed them. And in the day they were created, He called them “man.”

1My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate before the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

The man of Jesus Christ is simply a human. But the God in Jesus Christ was with God since the beginning, according to biblical canon (John 1).[quote]

John 1; Has nothing to do with the man Jesus.

The Man Jesus was indeed a human being, born of the seed of Adam as are all human beings, and the God within the man Jesus, was the ‘THE SON OF MAN’ who is ‘THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD’. The seed that God planted in the body of Eve, which child would take over seven thousand years to develop in her body, which body, has become the sinful body of mankind.

The 'SON OF MAN', who mentally descended from his heights in time and was chosen by Abraham as his God, who filled the man Jesus with his spirit, His words.

The child that would crush the head of Satan, and lay down his life for the sins of the body in which He develops, as we all must die once for the sins and mistakes made while developing within the flesh, then the disembodied spirit that is ‘WE” must go off into judgement.

He, the only begotten son of God, develops within the body of EVE, who has become the great pregnant and sinful body of Mankind, over a period of seven thousand years, and the umbilical cord that binds him to the mother body is severed after the thousand years rule of Jesus is over, when heavenly fire incinerates all physical life forms on this planet, and the body of Eve is reunited with her Lord, Adam.

Adam died in the day that he ate of the forbidden fruit, and Eve was told that she would follow him in six days.

Jubilees 4: 30; And he (ADAM) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: ’On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die.’ For this reason, he did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it.

The great seventh day Sabbath, of which the weekly Sabbath was but a shadow of that reality, which is fulfilled in Jesus, who will rule that day for a thousand years, after which the great androgynous body of Eve is reunited with Adam, and God’s only begotten son (THE SON OF MAN) is born and takes his throne and divides the disembodied spirits of all, who had died the first death.

The righteous spirits, who are to inherit everlasting life are divided from the unrepentant wicked spirits, which are to be cast into the eternal fire where those spirits are divided from the soul of God, in the eternal death, the eternal punishment for the unrepentant sinners. (Eternal and everlasting death from which there is no return.

But God will give that portion of his soul a new body in which to develop a new spirit.

Catch ya later mate.

For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Therefore anyone who holds an image of the Christ before he died on a cross is believing in a dying and dead Jesus.

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Nope! they are believing in a man whose faith in the words of the Lord who spoke through him, saying; "Whoever believes in me, even though he dies yet shall he live again," was so great, that even though he died on the cross, at the command of the Lord who had filled him with his spirit, yet, did he live again, when the Lord God our saviour, raised his body from death, which body of flesh and blood was later translated as He was seen to ascend to our God and our Father.

All who believe that the man Jesus, was with God from the beginning and was the co-creator of the cosmos, are fools according to Paul an apostle of the Lord.

Romans 1: 18-23; God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known.

God punishes them, because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain. Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made. So those people have no excuse at all!

They know God, but they do not give him the honour that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. 'Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. They say they are wise, but they are fools'; instead of worshipping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortal human beings, etc such as you have depicted in your previous post.

And so God has given those people over to do the filthy things their hearts desire, and they do shameful things with each other. They exchange the truth about God for a lie; they worship and serve what God has created instead of the Creator himself, who is to be praised for ever! Amen.

'THE SON OF MAN", is the only begotten Son of God, whose Spiritual seed was implanted in the body of Eve, as revealed in Genesis. The Spiritual God seed that would develop in the expanded androgynous body of Eve=mankind.

The 'Son of Man' is the God child, that she would bear, as she dies in childbirth. The child who would crush the head of Satan, and pay the death penalty for all those who were obedient to the evolving spirit in mankind.

For, like all of us, who all have sinned must pay the death penalty for the sins and mistakes made while we the minds=spirits were developing in the body of flesh and blood. Which body dies the first death and returns to the elements from which it was created, while 'WE' the disembodied spirits, who developed within those bodies, go off into judgement.

I see from your previous post that you believe that the man Jesus was the God who was with the LOGOS in the beginning.

'Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. They say they are wise, but they are fools'; instead of worshipping the immortal God, they worship images made to look like mortal human beings, etc.

<4> Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: <5> thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the father upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; <6> and showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

First, if the second commandment condemns images of Jesus, then it condemns making images of anything at all. Therefore, God would have been guilty of contradicting himself because he commanded the Israelites to adorn the ark of the covenant with the images of cherubim (Exodus 25:18–20).

Furthermore, in context, the commandment is not an injunction against making “graven images,” but an injunction against worshiping them.

Finally, if viewing an image necessarily leads to idolatry, then the incarnation of Christ was the greatest temptation of all. Yet, Jesus thought it appropriate for people to look on him and worship him as God (Matthew 28:9; Luke 24:52). That worship, however, was to be directed to his person, not his appearance. Indeed, idolatry lies not in the making of images, but in the worship of manmade images in place of the “image of the invisible God” (Colossians 1:15).

According to both Matthew and Luke, Jesus was born of a virgin. This claim, however, completely shatters the core Christian claim that Jesus was a legitimate heir to David’s throne and king of the Jews. The virgin birth myth undermines this fundamental Church teaching because tribal lineage is traced only through a person’s father, never the mother. This principle is clearly stated in the Torah:

"And on the first day of the second month, they assembled the whole congregation together, who registered themselves by families, by their fathers’ houses, according to the number of names from twenty years old and upward, head by head. "