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Disputed Area in South China Seas

 
 
Ionus
 
Reply Thu 21 May, 2015 09:49 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/21/us-southchinasea-usa-china-idUSKBN0O60AY20150521

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The United States vowed on Thursday to keep up air and sea patrols in international waters after the Chinese navy repeatedly warned a U.S. surveillance plane to leave the airspace over artificial islands China is creating in the disputed South China Sea.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2015 08:17 pm

The Chinese government is bluffing. Their ability to project power in the South China Sea cannot match that of the US.

Call their bluff.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2015 08:27 pm
@oralloy,
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Call their bluff.
That seems to be what the USA is doing . WW2 saw the USA project power around the world but we dont want WW3 . The Chinese leadership is like most autocratic male leadership, it is overcompensating for its fear of losing power .
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 02:28 am
The danger is not the USA and China going to war, though that is the worst case and should be borne in mind, the danger is what it will do to the world economy if the threat of escalation frightens the market .
GorDie
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 10:14 am
@oralloy,
"The Chinese government is bluffing. Their ability to project power in the South China Sea cannot match that of the US." ~
That is entirely untrue.

Chinas standing army, apart from it's UNRECORDED military force is larger than any army in the world.

China has enough money to build anything they want.

China technically owns all American equity. Anything bought with American money while the USA was in debt to China is owned by the Chinese government. China's airforce, navy and standing army all exceed every aspect of the American army.

CANADA has zero obligation to aid the USA, nor does Europe*** As trading partners, China offers all the same benefits as an "American" economy once they begin to occupy.
[common sense. we don't need you. Everythingg you trade and buy will still be sold and bough regardless of the seller.]

China is more technologically advanced as well, as well as the fact that they can read and speak English, and we can't speak the many Chinese dialects at all.

Russia is closer allies to China than the USA, as is India.

China's presence in the south sea is to aid the poverty there anyways. Call that bluff and China will march into the USA.


Reality fact for the USA, the entire world hates you. FACT.
Everyone in Canada thinks Americans are generally idiots*
it is the cultural practice to insult and belittle America for their arrogance and pride in their corrupt drug riddled nation.
People go to America to take your money and bring it away from you.
When foreign people say that, "they love America." it is to keep you from opening your big mouths.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 10:47 am
@GorDie,
GorDie wrote:

Everyone in Canada thinks Americans are generally idiots


http://www.pewglobal.org/database/indicator/1/country/39/

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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 10:49 am
@GorDie,
GorDie wrote:

Reality fact for the USA, the entire world hates you. FACT.


hmmmm not so much a fact as a lie

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/15/which-countries-dont-like-america-and-which-do/

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Today, despite recent revelations of U.S. National Security Agency spying on foreign leaders and global opposition to U.S. drone strikes, there is little evidence of profound anti-Americanism except in a handful of countries, according to a new Pew Research Center survey of 44 nations. Foreigners’ love affair with the United States remains strong in Africa and most of Asia, Europe and Latin America.


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But there are still corners of the world where America is held in high regard. In European countries surveyed, half or more of the publics in seven of nine nations say they see the U.S. in a positive light. Top of the list are Italians (78%), French (75%) and Poles (73%). Only in Germany, where U.S. favorability is down 13 points since 2009, has the positive image of the United States slipped significantly. And, despite this slippage, roughly half of Germans (51%) still see America favorably.

Asians are also pro-American. In fact, the Filipinos are the biggest fans of the U.S.; 92% express a positive view. South Koreans (82%), Bangladeshis (76%) and Vietnamese (76%) also agree. Even half the Chinese give Uncle Sam a thumbs up.


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The U.S. is also feeling the love from Latin America, where majorities see the U.S. in a favorable light in eight of nine countries surveyed. Salvadorans (80%) are particularly positive in their assessment, as are Chileans (72%) and Nicaraguans (71%). Notably, despite all the tensions between Washington and Caracas, more than six-in-ten Venezuelans have a favorable opinion of the U.S.

And Africans express particularly positive views about America. Strong majorities in all seven nations surveyed back the United States, including roughly three-quarters or more of Kenyans (80%), Ghanaians (77%), Tanzanians (75%) and Senegalese (74%).
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2015 02:26 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth:
You need to stop contradicting GorDie. He inhabits the same position as those early christian who wrote the bible. They just transcribed Gods word into the book that is the basis of many religions. GorDie undoubtedly gets his information directly from God so what he said MUST be true.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2015 12:08 am
@GorDie,
GorDie wrote:
oralloy wrote:
The Chinese government is bluffing. Their ability to project power in the South China Sea cannot match that of the US.

That is entirely untrue.

So let's say the US stations a few dozen B52s at Guam, loads them with anti-ship missiles, and has them continuously patrol the South China Sea.

How would the Chinese military prevent that from happening?


GorDie wrote:
China technically owns all American equity.

China can rest assured that the United States will continue to pay interest on all US bonds.

Ownership of those bonds does not entitle them to anything more than a timely interest payment.


GorDie wrote:
China's airforce, navy and standing army all exceed every aspect of the American army.

The US has two airbases on Okinawa and another airbase at Hiroshima. If the US began regular fighter jet patrols to interdict all shipping across the Japanese Ryukyu Islands, how would the Chinese military prevent that from happening?


GorDie wrote:
People go to America to take your money and bring it away from you.

In return they provide us with all sorts of products that we wish to buy.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jul, 2015 03:09 am
Problems with the belligerent Scots raiding the English border territories were solved by swapping ownership of lands by nobles north and south of the border . Your own estates could be burnt down, so raids became frowned upon by the people who would benefit the most, the nobles .

These days its about bombing your own factories in another country .
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 27 Oct, 2015 05:45 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
GorDie wrote:
oralloy wrote:
The Chinese government is bluffing. Their ability to project power in the South China Sea cannot match that of the US.

That is entirely untrue.

So let's say the US stations a few dozen B52s at Guam, loads them with anti-ship missiles, and has them continuously patrol the South China Sea.

How would the Chinese military prevent that from happening?

In the news today:

US cuts a $80 Billion check for 100 new stealth bombers (which will be capable of carrying anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles).

US warships sail within 12 miles of islands claimed by China in the South China Sea.
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jacksondisuja
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2015 02:17 am
Freedom of navigation in the region is also a contentious issue, especially between the United States and China over the right of U.S. military vessels to operate in China's two-hundred-mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ).
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2015 05:12 am
@jacksondisuja,
An exclusive economic zone allows a state to have exclusive access to oil drilling and fishing in that area.

It does not give a state the power to prevent foreign warships from sailing through the area.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2015 04:33 pm
@Ionus,
Which is why it wont go any farther than verbal confrontation. Sorry Ollie, no WW3.
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 09:19 am
@RABEL222,
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Which is why it wont go any farther than verbal confrontation. Sorry Ollie, no WW3.
I dont know why you assume I have that attitude. I suppose you are just used to making stuff up. I know a little of war, and I am not recommending or looking forward to another.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2015 12:14 am
@Ionus,
Your name is Ollie?
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