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The coming Oz election thread ...

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:01 pm
OK, I've worked out The Plan of Action! Idea The next step >

I'm hereby announcing the birth of a new Oz political party: The Dispossessed Party. Membership will consist of all of us neglected souls who missed out on a bribe from either of the big two - those who aren't "family" folk, aborigines, single parents, old age pensioners, the unemployed, those earning less than $50K pa, lesbians, asylum seekers, those lacking "Christian values" .... Hey, we're gonna be BIG! There will certainly be enough of us! Let's go! Very Happy


I have come to LOATHE the word "family" during this election campaign. A pox on families! Mad
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:07 pm
msolga wrote:
littlek wrote:
2nd election?


The US one, littlek, when John Howard receives clarification & directions on what direction we're going! Shocked Laughing He's a very, very loyal deputy to Bush. <sigh>


Doh! Of course.... I'm slow tonight.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:12 pm
Not half as slow as me this morning, I can assure you, littlek. Perhaps some sun glasses & a Berocca might help? Everything looks very BRIGHT!



Cool Aaaaaah, that's a bit better! Very Happy
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:13 pm
Heehee.....wow, what were you drinking?
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:15 pm
Buckets of white wine, littlek. Embarrassed Confused
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:17 pm
msolga wrote:
The Dispossessed Party. Membership will consist of all of us neglected souls who missed out on a bribe from either of the big two - those who aren't "family" folk, aborigines, single parents, old age pensioners, the unemployed, those earning less than $50K pa, lesbians, asylum seekers, those lacking "Christian values"


So, msolga, you're an honest, single, non-aboriginal, childless, relatively young, hard-working, underpaid, straight, patriotic atheist?

I knew there was a reason I liked you.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:20 pm
Laughing Most, but not all of the above, Gus.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:23 pm
Sign me up for the disposessed party olga.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:26 pm
Oh, good! You can help write our manifesto, hingehead! Very Happy

..and how are YOU feeling this morning? All brain cells intact? Looking to the next 3 years with great optimism? :wink:
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:33 pm
Red wined myself to oblivion, just got back from breakfast at Carlo's and still a tad inebriated.

I've been in a funk since 96 but at least the senate was a check - now that's out the window. Current escape plans are migration to NZ, statelessness or German citizenship (mum was born there...)

The really weird thing is that work-wise and personal finance-wise the libs policies are to my advantage. But once my higher brain functions kick in I am absolutely apalled by what they stand for.

And reading the Guardian this morning I see Kerry's a chance of winning the presidency - that the US would be more progressive and considered than OZ really sticks in my craw.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 07:55 pm
Yes, very, very strange times we live in, hingehead. Sad

But (ever the optimist!) I think the next 3 years are going to be very different. For starter, I believe we now have a viable opposition, that has a much clearer purpose & agenda. I also think that, (despite the hideous election outcome) there is a lot less "Howard rapture & awe" in the electorate. It will be far more difficult for him to pull some of the swifties of the past 3 years again, despite the Senate situation. He's made some powerful enemies, who "came out" during the campaign ... I doubt that they're going to pull their heads back in, after declaring themselves.

It is going to be very interesting, indeed, when some of his rash brides turn out to be "non-core". Especially if the mortgage belt swinging voters are affected & find themselves struggling as a result of the (inevitable) interest rate rises. He's going to be held a lot more accountable than before after this shonky campaign ... and we aren't going to be in our numbed post-Iraq invasion frame of mind after all we've been through in the past 6 weeks. But I suspect that he's not going to be around for all that long, anyway ... He KNOWS that winning the election & making his promises work are two entirely different things. And I don't think it suits his image or personal agenda to stay & put himself through it.

As for Labor, if they haven't learned a thing or 2 during this campaign, well they're just plain stupid. They now have 3 years to consolidate & educate the electorate about what they actually stand for. Something that wasn't possible during Latham's short period as leader. I think this is going to be a very positive time for them, surprisingly. They will be well & truly prepared for the next election & they probably weren't quite ready this time, sadly ...
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:22 pm
Trying to latch onto that silver lining. I actually think the opposition will be less effective without a hostile senate - but that means the libs true colours will rise even more to the fore - I reckon cross-media ownership will soon be on the floor, telstra sold.

Bejeebus they can do a lot of damage in three years while we sit around and hope the electorate notices - but we've had eight years of lies, US arse-licking, covert racism and mean-spirited anti-inclusiveness and no-one seems to have noticed.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:26 pm
Hey, cheer up, hingehead! And DON"T leave Oz just yet ... we need your expert services in the Party of the Dispossessed! You are half the membership at this stage! :wink: Very Happy

And now I'm going to venture out & enjoy this beautiful, sunny Melbourne spring day ... At least HE doesn't control the weather! Rolling Eyes
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:36 pm
I WANNA GO TO CANAJA!!!!!!!

But - mebbe a little hol in New Zillun might have to do??
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:36 pm
[quote="hingehead .. Bejeebus they can do a lot of damage in three years while we sit around and hope the electorate notices - but we've had eight years of lies, US arse-licking, covert racism and mean-spirited anti-inclusiveness and no-one seems to have noticed.[/quote]

But WE are gonna be active, hingehead! Along with those notable souls that came out of the closet during the campaign & others. And if Abbott continues along his industrial relations "reformist" ways, the unions, in the absence of a Labor government, are going to have to fight back. They will. They have to ...
I think many people DID notice the "lies, US arse-licking, covert racism and mean-spirited anti-inclusiveness", but chose to vote for their own particular interests. They were encouraged to, by Howard & to an extent, Latham ... & soon enough, they'll find out what they actually got! Twisted Evil
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:38 pm
I wanna go to Andora, Andora, Andora .... Very Happy
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:38 pm
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
msolga wrote:
The Dispossessed Party. Membership will consist of all of us neglected souls who missed out on a bribe from either of the big two - those who aren't "family" folk, aborigines, single parents, old age pensioners, the unemployed, those earning less than $50K pa, lesbians, asylum seekers, those lacking "Christian values"


So, msolga, you're an honest, single, non-aboriginal, childless, relatively young, hard-working, underpaid, straight, patriotic atheist?

I knew there was a reason I liked you.


That is I, also - but I struggle at all times against the pox of patriotism.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:41 pm
So are you member #3 of the PotD, Deb? Very Happy If so, that makes three!
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:46 pm
msolga wrote:
... At least HE doesn't control the weather!


But Olga, HE does, by not ratifying Kyoto...
;^)
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 9 Oct, 2004 08:47 pm
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
Just an observation here, but I find the Aussies are fairly well informed on their political process and the American process as well.

Is that because Americans lack the collective political inquisitiveness of the Aussies or are the Aussies so scared of Bush's incompetence that they feel it necessary to be vigiliant, to always keep an eye open?


Well, you guys are now into invading folk.

We are very worried.
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