Proof of God

@in god we trust ,

in god we trust wrote:

. . . a believer must not look for proofs to god thats a materialistic approach thats not helpful

This is a dangerous belief. We are to "keep testing whether (we) are in the faith . . . " (2 Corinthians 13:5). If we need proof that we are easily led astray, we need look no further than Catholicism, though it is only one of many examples.

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

in god we trust wrote:
. . . a believer must not look for proofs to god thats a materialistic approach thats not helpful
This is a dangerous belief. We are to "keep testing whether (we) are in the faith . . . " (2 Corinthians 13:5). If we need proof that we are easily led astray, we need look no further than Catholicism, though it is only one of many examples.

All "beliefs" regarding gods and REALITY are dangerous, Neo. You can start to think you are talking about something more important than a blind guess if you use "belief" instead of "blind guess"...

...and that can be very dangerous.

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@Frank Apisa,

Just my opinion that untested beliefs are somewhat worse. Thassall

How are you today, Frank?

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@FBM,

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They consider themselves to be "good people."

True , they do . Do you consider all religious people to be not 'good people', ie, they are all bad like the KKK ? Or Al Qaeda ?

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@Ionus,

Nope. Spent 2 1/2 very pleasant hours with a religious person this afternoon.

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@FBM,

That's good . So why are the religious posters here bad people ? I must have missed something .

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@Ionus,

Not sure. I don't consider them to be inherently bad people. I try to make it clear that I bash bad ideas, not the people who express them. I can't speak for others, naturally. Of course, I sometimes slip up and hurl an ad hom when I shouldn't, but I try to keep that to a bare minimum. Bad ideas are my enemies, not the people who have fallen for them.

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@FBM,

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Not sure. I don't consider them to be inherently bad people. I try to make it clear that I bash bad ideas, not the people who express them. I can't speak for others, naturally. Of course, I sometimes slip up and hurl an ad hom when I shouldn't, but I try to keep that to a bare minimum. Bad ideas are my enemies, not the people who have fallen for them.

I think I am going to enjoy debating with you . You seem (at this stage) to have a good attitude towards people in general .

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@Ionus,

People are generally OK in my book. Except in Seoul. I spent half the day there today and will do so again tomorrow. The problem with Seoul is that the list of people who need to get the **** out of the way is always very long.

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@FBM,

IGWT has been calling gays cursed on another thread, he can stick his beliefs up his ******* arse.

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@izzythepush,

IGWT is Ionus???

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@FBM,

Yeah, I was in asia somewhere (I forget) and I was in a line to get on a ferry when some southern europeans literally pushed me out of the way to get in front of me . After everyone had straightened their feathers and the dust had settled, they were at the wrong end of the line and a polite security guard was standing near to make sure it didnt happen again . Yet the majority were being very polite, it was the bloody tourists who were the problem . Coming from a polite social background like England and Canada, Australians will start punching long before anyone else because the insult is so greater . We tend to tread carefully and treat other Australians as an equal...safer that way . Lots of casual causes for fights here .

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@FBM,

I think she means In God We Trust Wink

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@Ionus,

The (older) Chinese do not understand the concept of a queue, either.

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@Ionus,

Ionus wrote:

I think she means In God We Trust

As my students so often say, "I'm so confusing."

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@izzythepush,

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IGWT has been calling gays cursed on another thread,

Depends on what you mean by cursed . They have always had more disease than others, a shorter life and prosecution and persecution . That may not be a curse, but I wouldnt want it .

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@FBM,

Sorry, In God We Trust.

Ionus is deranged, he's got some medical condition that makes him so angry all the time. He's not exactly PC when it comes to gays women or people of other races but I don't think he's called them cursed. That's not to say he doesn't hate them all, he probably does, he seems to hate a lot of things/people/places.

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@Ionus,

Ionus wrote:

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IGWT has been calling gays cursed on another thread,

Depends on what you mean by cursed . They have always had more disease than others, a shorter life....

This claim deserves documentation.

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...and prosecution and persecution . That may not be a curse, but I wouldnt want it .

The prosecution and persecution may be explanatory of the previous claim. Nothing there to suggest that homosexuality is inherently bad. Hateful bigotry, maybe...

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@FBM,

I have proven that many people over the internet believe that and bear witness to the photograph being of a supernatural spiritual being. With an internet search, one can see that these photographs have been a mystery to mankind for decades. Also, through scripture, I have clearly demonstrated this spiritual entity to be the Holy Spirit in which Jesus Christ, the Son of God spoke of.

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@izzythepush,

Thanks. I haven't witnessed that yet, but I'll keep an eye out for it.

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