Patches
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:22 pm
@in god we trust ,
I am happy to oblige the agnostic and atheist who ask for proof. It is for the glory of Christ. The Christian can build their faith and learn from it as well..
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FBM
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:22 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

Photographs are considered evidence. You are not a qualified photographic expert and cannot determine the legitimacy of my claims.


They're considered useful as evidence only if they show something indisputable. Yours doesn't. It can be used as evidence for your supernatural entity or for someone's charlatanism or it could be a demonstration of Photoshop. It's not useful as evidence for your claim.

You keep ignoring so many of my questions and respond with non sequiturs. I wonder why? Are you motivated to abandon common sense by fear of death?
Patches
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:28 pm
@FBM,
Photographs are considered evidence in a court of law in the USA. Sometimes they are examined an expert. I have yet to do this. And I do not fear death for Jesus Christ holds my soul in His hands.
FBM
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:32 pm
@Patches,
They're only USEFUL as evidence if they point to a singular conclusion. Otherwise, they're dismissed as inconclusive. Your photo is inconclusive because it points to several other possibilities, all of which are more plausible than your holy spirit claim. Therefore, your photo is NOT proof of anything. Instead, you'll have to work hard to find evidence to support the authenticity of the photo itself, then again to find evidence that it supports your supernatural claim.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/Screen-Shot-2013-12-24-at-1.22.36-PM.pnghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/false_rapture.jpg
Patches
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:39 pm
@FBM,
There are millions of people in the world that bear witness and give testimony that it is a genuine spiritual entity.
FBM
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:40 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

There are millions of people in the world that bear witness and give testimony that it is a genuine spiritual entity.


Argumentum ad populum fallacy. Appeal to the masses, bandwagon fallacy. Logic 101: Intro to Logic. Try again.
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FBM
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:47 pm
More holy spirits???

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/103888main_2SpotsWgraph_t.gifhttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/opo0532b.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/images_1.jpg
Patches
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:54 pm
@FBM,
Not even close. Try looking up the words, "angel orb" and "spirit orb."
FBM
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:04 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

Not even close. Try looking up the words, "angel orb" and "spirit orb."


Oh? You're skeptical? Really? Can you prove that those aren't holy spirits? Can you?
Patches
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:10 pm
@FBM,
Are you claiming that they are?
FBM
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:18 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

Are you claiming that they are?


OK, sure. The photos prove it. Now prove that they're not.
Patches
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:32 pm
@FBM,
I'd rather not waste my time.
FBM
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:36 pm
@Patches,
You can't. Just like I can't prove that yours aren't. Instead of shifting the burden of proof to the skeptic, the one making the claim has to provide the proof. You haven't proven anything about nor with your photo. I suspect that you can't.
Ionus
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 09:06 pm
I am agnostic .

There is no proof of God . To say there is eliminates the one true feature of religion...faith .

There is no proof of no God . To say there is eliminates the one true feature of science....facts .
izzythepush
 
  0  
Sat 18 Apr, 2015 02:56 am
@in god we trust ,
in god we trust wrote:

We should respect every good peoples opinion


The problem is that a lot of these 'good people' are hateful bigots. Homosexuals are discriminated against, and it's been used to justify racism and slavery. The Dutch Reformed Church supported apartheid in South Africa right up until 1986.

They don't sound like good people to me.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Sat 18 Apr, 2015 06:16 am
@in god we trust ,
in god we trust wrote:

We should respect every good peoples opinion


You're not a good person you're a hateful bigot. And you're very stupid, you can't even punctuate a basic sentence. (There should be a possessive apostrophe after people.)

So you believe in God because you're a moron. And because you're a moron your opinion doesn't matter.
Ionus
 
  0  
Sat 18 Apr, 2015 07:39 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
The problem is that a lot of these 'good people' are hateful bigots. Homosexuals are discriminated against, and it's been used to justify racism and slavery.
Are you saying there has never been hateful bigoted Atheists ? How do we know these supposedly 'good people' that you dont like are not pretending to be Christian and are in fact Atheists just going with the flow in an era where it was very difficult not to ?

What is it with you and word bigot ? You have a very limited vocabulary .
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Ionus
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2015 07:45 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
you can't even punctuate a basic sentence.
Are you going to show me where I criticised FM's spelling ? I would hate for you to be seen as a bigot . His argument must be wrong so I guess FM's is off the planet, isnt that what you are saying ?

Quote:
You're not a good person you're a hateful bigot....So you believe in God because you're a moron..... And because you're a moron your opinion doesn't matter
Wow !! Were you ever sodomised with a tank barrel wrapped in barbed wire because you have so much hate...it will destroy you, you know, hating like that .
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Ionus
 
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Sat 18 Apr, 2015 07:49 am
@in god we trust ,
Quote:
We should respect every good peoples opinion a believer must not look for proofs to god thats a materialistic approach thats not helpful
Cant fault that, but you wont find many good people here unless you count the vehement and the spiteful as good people..oh, and the haters are here in droves too .
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FBM
 
  1  
Sat 18 Apr, 2015 08:12 am
http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w561/hapkido1996/10881604_1524944981119190_8034719917708724584_n_zpsabdd9119.jpg

They consider themselves to be "good people."
 

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