Patch; I don't think I have asked this before.
I'd like some clarification.
Are you able to see the holy spirit without photography, as when the early Christians saw the manifestation of the holy spirit at Pentecost?
When you meet with others of your faith, do you see it? Or, if you see someone in public, are you able to recognize the person as a believer?
There are, of course, a number of collateral questions associated with this. But one reason for me asking has to do with Jesus' instructions for identifying believers, particularly his words at John 13: 34,35.