Patches
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:42 am
@FBM,
So far, you have attacked me, the photographs and now scripture. What are you going to attack next?...there is nothing left.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:45 am
@Patches,
If scripture and your photographs are your only proof of God, you need to put up a better argument.
Patches
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:54 am
@izzythepush,
Words, photographs, and videos are all we have on the internet. I may be nice and show you a video some day. Smile
FBM
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:55 am
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

So far, you have attacked me, the photographs and now scripture. What are you going to attack next?...there is nothing left.


Well, there's genuine evidence. If you had any of that, I'd treat it with all due respect. Check a dictionary for the words "claim" and "evidence." I'll bet you'll see a considerable difference. You're seriously lacking in the "evidence" area, but are extraordinarily strong in the "claim" bit. Switch that around, and I'll be a fan.
Patches
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 08:59 am
@FBM,
The evidence is genuine.
FBM
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 09:00 am
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

The evidence is genuine.


Prove it.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 09:37 am
@Patches,
That's a really compelling argument.
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in god we trust
 
  -1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 10:50 am
ı don't need any proof to believe god
izzythepush
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 12:14 pm
@in god we trust ,
And we should respect your opinion because?
neologist
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 02:33 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
And we should respect your opinion because?
Well, he is a newbie.
And he didn't blast us with irrelevant slide shows.
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Smileyrius
 
  2  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 03:16 pm
@Patches,
perhaps my attempt at drawing you out on scripture went unnoticed, You see, I paraphrased the scripture purposefully in hope you would pick up on it and restore the integrity of the translation to avoid misapplication.
I was disappointed not to go down that route because you see, scriptural integrity is an important part of my studies, and as such I will pick up on translational bias and supplanted wording that is commonly used to support a theory or idea that is not actually scriptural. I wanted to see how much scriptural integrity meant to you.

Quote:
The Scripture confirms the photograph.

Now the first scripture you supplied as confirmation, Matthew 3 verse 16 you highlighted the word "alighting" upon him, but as I previously showed you, the word alighting was not in the original texts, it was supplanted for the word Erchomai, which literally means to come from one place into another, the Hebrew word Tsanach however is the word which translates as Alighting, which has a similar meaning but is no way related to the Greek word Phos, or"light" which is what you were using as the link to your halo theory.

Quote:
It is of the Holy Spirit in bodily form which appeared as a Halo.

The holy spirit in the scripture says it "descended upon him" "in bodily form" "as a dove", there is nothing to suggest that it is an orb, or that it emitted any form of light, My concern is that I see nothing that relates the scripture to anything in the photo. I have also yet to see anything in scripture that pertains to the halo, something that was not even spoken of by Jesus or his disciples.

Please do not think I am here to trample your belief system, I merely like to inquire of it, to put it to the test if you will. I appreciate your patience
Patches
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 06:13 pm
@FBM,
I have already shown you a photograph of the Holy Spirit and scripture describing Him alighting and remaining on Jesus in bodily form / appearing as a Halo.
Patches
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 06:13 pm
@in god we trust ,
Amen, brother.
Patches
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 06:19 pm
@Smileyrius,
Catholic information says, "the Halo is symbolic of divinity and supreme power." Divinity means of or pertaining to God. The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Holy Trinity. I hope that this helps.
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FBM
 
  2  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 06:20 pm
@Patches,
Patches wrote:

I have already shown you a photograph of the Holy Spirit and scripture describing Him alighting and remaining on Jesus in bodily form appearing as a Halo.


And I've already shown you how easily the photos are faked and that scripture isn't proof of anything. Do you understand the difference between a claim and evidence?

Quote:
claim
klām/Submit
verb
1.
state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.
"he claimed that he came from a wealthy, educated family"
synonyms: assert, declare, profess, maintain, state, hold, affirm, avow; More


Quote:
ev·i·dence
ˈevədəns/Submit
noun
1.
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"
synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
Patches
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 06:27 pm
@FBM,
I am revealing photographic evidence of the Holy Spirit. I hope to someday reveal scientifically the validity of those photographs. Only now, this is all I have to offer.
FBM
 
  1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 06:33 pm
@Patches,
The photograph is not evidence of anything. I can do that in Photoshop. I did do that in Photoshop, and I'm not even all that skilled. How can you be so gullible? How can you ignore or be so ignorant of basic logic? This is mind-boggling. Is it fear of death that compels you to blind yourself to common sense?
in god we trust
 
  -1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:12 pm
@izzythepush,
We should respect every good peoples opinion a believer must not look for proofs to god thats a materialistic approach thats not helpful
in god we trust
 
  -1  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:14 pm
@Patches,
Amen
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Patches
 
  0  
Fri 17 Apr, 2015 07:17 pm
@FBM,
Photographs are considered evidence. You are not a qualified photographic expert and cannot determine the legitimacy of my claims.
 

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