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Sat 19 Jun, 2004 11:52 pm
Okay, here's two situations. Are the people involved drunk, or stoned?
1. Guys get into a fight at a soccer game, start a riot, melee ensues, people die.
2. Guys listen to Pink Floyd, and talk about the nature of being, consciousness, and the evolution of thought.
Now which one of these drugs is illegal again?
And why would that be?
Pot has always been demonized, but which drug is really the most harmful?
Oh cmon that discussion is as old as...say my grandpa.
Sure alcohol makes some guys more violent and smoking pot makes some others real cool and chilled-out but you can't generalize things by taking these two kinds of persons into account.
Now when it comes to discussing the harmfulness of both drugs, you get a hell lot of opinions and studies from even more docs and scientists.
Some tell you to get a glass of wine in the evening to lower your blood pressure, some will tell you the same about pot and some are gonna tell you to stay away from both of them.
I guess you can say in real general that the proper amount of both drugs isn't gonna harm you more than everyday's stuff like combustion fumes, MC Donald's food, etc.
IMO it's always being moderate about everything in life that makes you keep yourself aways from harmful things.
Pot doesn't mellow people out across the board either. Some folks get majorly paranoid, and that can be scary.
What exactly are you accusing me of Phoenix?
Just kidding.
So alcohol and pot aren't health foods. So what! It's asinine, not to say borderline psychotic, to put people in prison for the possession of either of these drugs.
Dudes......what are your talking about?
gustavratzenhofer wrote:Dudes......what are your talking about?
Very same question here...
pot definately ground you more, well thinkers anyways, but alot of idiots take it and that's why it get the bad name, plus gov. wouldn't care if it was taxable, most importantly they care because they realized you get to an altered state of mind where you do think and ans. your own ques. and thinking is what government fears the most, look around you at all the materialism and tech. making life comfortably easier, unthinkable, everything's immediate.
Like his muscian buddies, my dad used to grow pot in our backyard. This was before it was made illegal. I just can't see it as bad, but as with alcohol, I acknowledge that some people cannot smoke or drink. My poor mother's alcoholism resulted in her death, but I would rather have red wine with my pasta than mota.
nn, many everyday things result in altered states of mind: boos, movies, standing close to a woman, reading poetry and literature, dreaming, day dreaming, hearing music, painting or seeing paintings, etc. etc.. What would we do without the abililty to alter our consciousness regularly?
I am quite positive that the criminalization of marijuana has everything to do with who partakes and next to nothing to do with its effects on the mind - damn hippies.
Drinking is still regarded as the more refined of the two. As exemplified by Bushie's young lassies. Now, that's
REFINEMENT!
cavfancier wrote:Pot doesn't mellow people out across the board either. Some folks get majorly paranoid, and that can be scary.
I heard that as long as you're relaxed before you begin, cannabis won't make you paranoid. So apparently people only experience paranoia from it if they're already a bit worried and a bit paranoid or unhappy. It exaggurates your mood.
Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Hmm, don't know about paranoia but I do know that the sickest I've ever been in my LIFE was the result of wacky tobaccy. 24 hours of projectile vomiting (sorry about the visual people). Never had that reaction with the booze (and I do like a good drink now and then, and then, and then.....)
Just the smell of the stuff is enough to send me running from the room now.
In Euro2000 football (soccer) competition, the games held in the Netherlands (where cannabis is decriminalised) led to much less violence then the games in Belgium (where it is illegal, so the fans drank instead).
I've never known dope to make people violent - other drugs may have that effect but the "mellow" of TetraHydraCannabinol is justified. Paranoia is a possible side effect, not to be underestimated, but violence isn't.
I can say that my experience is not just theoretical...or brief. I find a smoke much more relaxing at the end of a hard day/week than a drink. If you can stave off the munchies, it's better for the waistline, too!
fortune wrote:Hmm, don't know about paranoia but I do know that the sickest I've ever been in my LIFE was the result of wacky tobaccy. 24 hours of projectile vomiting (sorry about the visual people). Never had that reaction with the booze (and I do like a good drink now and then, and then, and then.....)
Just the smell of the stuff is enough to send me running from the room now.
You must have had an allergic reaction, or it was something that you ate, because otherwise, I would have to say that you're full of ****.
Did you smoke it or eat it?
ReX: Very funny.
kickycan: No need to get so defensive! No it wasn't something that I ate and yes I am pretty sure that I am allergic to pot. Take a chill man!