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What good does religion offer the world today?

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 25 Jun, 2015 11:11 am
@TheCobbler,
I ask again, Cobbler:

Are there any gods?
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TheCobbler
 
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Thu 25 Jun, 2015 11:11 am
@Smileyrius,
And that is why we all come to this forum so we can compare ideas and sharpen up on areas where we are uninformed. Smile
TheCobbler
 
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Thu 25 Jun, 2015 11:17 am
@Frank Apisa,
The closest thing to an actual God is the sun Frank. The sun lords over us on most days and it has a moon that keeps us reminded of its brilliance while we rest. The sun is comprised of immense incalculable power.

The sun is the only provable "higher power" there is besides gravity which is still a mystery that eludes understanding.

As for these other "gods", they have big shoes to fill if they think they can ever compete with our nurturing and ever present sun...

Smile
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 25 Jun, 2015 11:29 am
@TheCobbler,
Apparently you did not understand the question.

Let's see if I can ask it a bit more clearly:


A R E
T H E R E
A N Y
G O D S?


And to help even a bit more, we'll make it multiple choice:

a) Yes, there are gods.

b) No, there are no gods.

c) I do not know...and I suspect neither does anyone else.

Smileyrius
 
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Fri 26 Jun, 2015 03:55 am
@TheCobbler,
That we do my friend, we may at times stand on different sides of a mountain of ideas, but that does not mean we cannot learn from one another in our climb to the top
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GorDie
 
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Fri 26 Jun, 2015 05:49 pm
@TheCobbler,
Telling a Corrupt politician Atheism is real is equivalent to saying Morals are ficticious man made opinion statements.

Atheism is also the advocating of the same moral premise to murderers, rapists and disrespectful shittheads and children. Thus promoting disrespect, and in return giving no positive quality tot he moral premise we live by.

Atheism is the idea that the disrespect, abandonment, abuse and NEGLECT or women, children, neighbours, or Poverty, are nonchalant. Which is the kind of bullshit only atheism supports.

Atheism supports, promotes, advocates, and defends - as an entity - all disrespectful behaviour known to man. It alone.

Muslims say to kill rapists, murderers, and people who are disrespectful abussive doushbags IF they do not repent and continue to act negatively.. That is not in any way Immoral. "Kill unbelievers (of righteousness and love and reasoning. (The Word of God))[Blasphemers]."
FBM
 
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Fri 26 Jun, 2015 05:57 pm
@GorDie,
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/PennJilletteOnWhyHeIsntRapingandKillingEveryone42715.jpg
neologist
 
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Fri 26 Jun, 2015 06:53 pm
@GorDie,
Welcome to the forum
Whew!
I see you have been busy
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neologist
 
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Fri 26 Jun, 2015 06:55 pm
@FBM,
Jillette sure meets a lot of stupid folks where he's at.
He should try to escape.
FBM
 
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Fri 26 Jun, 2015 07:26 pm
@neologist,
ISWYDT. Wink
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TheCobbler
 
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Sat 27 Jun, 2015 09:00 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:


Frank wrote:

Apparently you did not understand the question.

Let's see if I can ask it a bit more clearly:

A R E
T H E R E
A N Y
G O D S?

And to help even a bit more, we'll make it multiple choice:

a) Yes, there are gods.

b) No, there are no gods.

c) I do not know...and I suspect neither does anyone else.


Comment:
d) I do not know and I do not know what others know

e) I may know and God may not exist

e) I may disbelieve and God may exist

f) All of the above

g) None of the above


My answer is: g) None of the above

Certainty is the root of arrogance...

OKAY FRANK?! Smile
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 28 Jun, 2015 02:17 am
@TheCobbler,
Quote:

Certainty is the root of arrogance...


I agree.

That is why I suggested that when you indicated certainty about the age of Mary when she conceived...you ought not to have done so.

That is why I suggest that when you say, "The closest thing to an actual God is the sun Frank"...you ought not to be doing so.

You do not know if there are gods or not.

Try acknowledging that. You will be further away from arrogance if you do.

TheCobbler
 
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Sun 28 Jun, 2015 02:10 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I indeed said the closest thing to God is the sun not that sun emphatically is God. Though I find the sun more forthright than traditional characterizations of God's supposed persona.

I neither limit the sun nor exalt the sun beyond measure.

As for Mary, her being referred to a few times as a handmaiden in the Bible, understanding traditions at the time of biblical men marrying woman today considered too young to consent and that the idea is also clearly spoken of in the gnostic books of Christianity. I can say history sure seems to paint it such that Mary was a "young" virgin...

I am not simply making a guess bases upon no evidence and in all truth I am uncertain if Mary, Jesus, Joseph or any God has ever existed...

Even my own existence at times seems too fanciful to be true... Smile
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TheCobbler
 
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Mon 29 Jun, 2015 12:18 am
https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11059156_874334832614855_3943984913848130647_n.jpg?oh=4441fd9ede1966bf037038a9b3f6a8b2&oe=55EC6567

God's plan is to use the good silverware on all occasions. Smile
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TheCobbler
 
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Mon 29 Jun, 2015 02:11 am
Secularism is freedom and atheism is liberty... rr
Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 29 Jun, 2015 03:29 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:

Secularism is freedom and atheism is liberty... rr


In many cases, atheism is no more "freedom" than is theism.

Atheism often is captivity to a belief system...just as in many cases, theism often is captivity to a belief system. It's just that atheists and theists are captive to different, and polar opposite, belief systems.
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Olivier5
 
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Mon 29 Jun, 2015 10:44 am
What good does religion offer the world today?

A topic for passionate discussion, at the least...
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neologist
 
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Mon 29 Jun, 2015 11:20 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Secularism is freedom and atheism is liberty... rr
Don't confuse libertarian with libertine, Rex
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TheCobbler
 
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Tue 30 Jun, 2015 11:22 am
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TheCobbler
 
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Tue 30 Jun, 2015 02:27 pm
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