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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 12:16 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
still posting the same lame bullshit see.

Your failure to point out anything that I'm wrong about is evidence that everything that I say is true.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 12:17 am
@BillW,
BillW wrote:
and, will continue on for how ever long the batteries last.....

Continue, yes, but note that everything that coldjoint and I are saying is the truth.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 12:19 am
@oralloy,
NUh-uh.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 12:21 am
@MontereyJack,
Your failure to point out anything that we are wrong about says otherwise.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 02:02 am
I would rather never be in a locker room where republicans "talk".

Dirty stinking rotten filthy minds talking crap.

They imagine the whole world thinks like they do but few are nearly as reprobate as they are.

Then they go to church right after as if nothing happened...

"Oh, it's just locker room talk..." they say. Not the locker rooms at my gym. There people are civilized and don't act like sex crazed deviants.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 03:21 am
Republicans try to use Trump's Iran conflict to derail impeachment, because of course
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/6/1909740/-Republicans-try-to-use-Trump-s-Iran-conflict-to-derail-impeachment-because-of-course

This is not to derail the impeachment this is to divert the fact that the US, all of Europe, China and Iran are all in a direct war against Russia...

Russia ordered that attack on Iran's general, not Trump...

Trump does NOTHING without consulting Russia first...

Iran should look to Russia for their revenge.

We are not at war with Iran we are at war with Russia, Trump and the republicans... Don't take your eye off the REAL enemy here.

China should look to Russia for retaliation for the tariffs and Europe and the world should double down on all out sanctions on Russia.

Russia killed Iran's military general and Trump is complicit in that dirty deed. This was done to drive a wedge between Iran and the US so as to further isolate the US in the world.

Trump needs to answer for this traitorous action NOW!
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 03:35 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
this is to divert the fact that the US, all of Europe, China and Iran are all in a direct war against Russia...
TheCobbler wrote:
Russia ordered that attack on Iran's general, not Trump...
TheCobbler wrote:
Russia killed Iran's military general and Trump is complicit in that dirty deed.
TheCobbler wrote:
This was done to drive a wedge between Iran and the US so as to further isolate the US in the world.

Um.... what?!?
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 04:19 am

soon... soon...

https://imgur.com/zmia7Ur.jpg
Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 10:43 am
@Region Philbis,
Only in your wettest of dreams. The left was in such a rush to get the impeachment done, they are now holding onto it because they know their "charges" hold no water and don't even connect to what they have been screaming about for the last 3 years. The polls are shifting, and impeachment has lost a lot of steam, it's another reason why they are holding them.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 11:30 am
@Region Philbis,
Wrong face photo-shopped, it should be Obama's. The soon still works. But overall another meme fail, like usual.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 02:38 pm
Quote:
Rep. Ilhan Omar Voted 2019 Anti-Semite of Year

Quote:
Omar, a Somali refugee, won the ignominious vote over Louis Farrakhan and Richard Spencer.

Yet another feather in the Democrat's hat. Proving once again their hate is just not reserved for Trump and Trump voters, although some could be Jewish.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ilhanomar-anti-semite-jerusalempost/2020/01/06/id/948603/
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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 04:37 pm
190 days since Stephanie Grisham became White House Press Secretary. Grisham has held zero White House Press Briefings in those 190 days.

The press secretary hasn't given a public briefing since she got the job, but she always has time for Fox News.

The American people shouldn't pay her salary, Fox News should -- she's essentially a Fox News contributor at this point.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 04:39 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
190 days since

What hasn't your government not done? That should be your concern. You have a lot of problems, why worry about us?
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 05:25 pm
@hingehead,
Won't doubt if there isn't some form of assured compensation already agreed upon. It's a tRumpy kinda thing.......little bit stinky, little bit dirty, all kinds of skuzzy!
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 05:43 pm
@Region Philbis,
mark
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 09:04 pm
Quote:
Treasonous, Or Just Stupid?

I say both.
Quote:
Posted on January 7, 2020 by John Hinderaker in Democrats, Ilhan Omar
Treasonous, Or Just Stupid?

The Democrats continue to embarrass themselves as they try to make political hay out of President Trump’s defending Americans by ridding the world of its worst living terrorist. Ilhan Omar predictably joined in yesterday, with this tweet:


Some have suggested that Omar’s tweet is treasonous because it advises Iran to strike at American targets, specifically the Trump organization’s hotels around the world. I am not sure that criticism goes too far, but my own critique is different: Omar’s take is almost unbelievably stupid.

First of all, she obviously has no idea what the emoluments clause is all about. It doesn’t mean that a president can’t own commercial properties in foreign countries.

More important, her comments make zero sense. Her suggestion that President Trump might “provoke war” because his hotels are “losing revenue” since guests are “skittish” about the possibility of Iranian attacks is ridiculous. And her conclusion–“His business interests should not be driving military decisions”–is self-refuting. Obviously, if President Trump’s overriding motivation was a desire to avoid possible threats to his hotels, he wouldn’t have had General Soleimani killed. The killing of Soleimani, or heightened tensions with Iran in general, can’t possibly serve the Trump organization’s business interests. Which I am sure is, in any event, the farthest thing from the president’s mind.

Ilhan Omar is a remarkably arrogant, but not very intelligent, person. The only point of this exercise is to note that if you are a Democrat, there is no expectation that your “analyses” of current events make any sense. Hating President Trump is the only requirement, and it is enough to make you a leader of your party, like Ilhan Omar.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jan, 2020 11:57 pm
Russia says the attack on the Iranian general was "illegal"...

They condemn the US for the attack to throw off suspicion from themselves... This attack that Putin ordered they condemn the US for following through with his orders. Oh, and Ukraine meddled in our elections too! (another lie)

This, blame the US approach further inflames our allies against us.

Russia ordered the hit, this is where the blame should be placed...

Trump does not do anything without first consulting Putin...

Leaving the Iran deal would play right into Putin’s hands, says a former US ambassador to Russia
https://qz.com/1271616/iran-deal-donald-trump-leaving-would-please-russias-vladimir-putin/
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jan, 2020 12:03 am
@TheCobbler,

Quote:
Trump does not do anything without first consulting Putin...

You have had almost 4 years to prove it. **** has been proven. Just tired rhetoric from a beat down desperate Democratic party.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jan, 2020 12:18 am
@coldjoint,
Why is Trump hiding the meeting transcripts?

(I posted the whole article because of the NYT paywall)

Nothing has been proven because the proof has been locked away from the discerning minds of the public. Trumps nefarious and traitorous actions prove his disloyalty.

White House Classified Computer System Is Used to Hold Transcripts of Sensitive Calls
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/us/politics/nsc-ukraine-call.html?

Current and former officials said the White House used a highly classified computer system accessible to only a select few officials to store transcripts of calls from President Vladimir Putin and the Saudi royal family.

WASHINGTON — The White House concealed some reconstructed transcripts of delicate calls between President Trump and foreign officials, including President Vladimir V. Putin and the Saudi royal family, in a highly classified computer system after embarrassing leaks of his conversations, according to current and former officials.

The handling of Mr. Trump’s calls with world leaders has come under scrutiny after questions over whether a transcript of a July 25 call with the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, was improperly placed into this computer system.

The latest revelations show the focus that White House officials put on safeguarding not only classified information but also delicate calls with Mr. Trump, the details of which the administration did not want leaked.

A whistle-blower complaint accuses officials of trying to “lock down” access to information about the conversation with Mr. Zelensky by improperly storing the reconstructed transcript of the July 25 call in the highly classified system after the call took place.

In the case of the calls with the Saudi royal family, the restrictions were set beforehand, and the number of people allowed to listen was sharply restricted. The Saudi calls placed in the restricted system were with King Salman, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Prince Khalid bin Salman, who at the time was the Saudi ambassador to the United States.

While the calls included delicate information about Mr. Trump’s discussions about the killing of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi, there was no apparent evidence of impropriety by Mr. Trump, said a person familiar with the matter.

The access restrictions placed on the calls with Mr. Putin of Russia and the Saudi royal family were first reported Friday night by CNN.

The practice began after details of Mr. Trump’s Oval Office discussion with the Russian foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, leaked to the news media, leading to questions of whether the president had released classified information, according to multiple current and former officials. The White House was particularly upset when the news media reported that Mr. Trump had called James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, a “nut job” during that same meeting, according to current and former officials.

The White House had begun restricting access to information after initial leaks of Mr. Trump’s calls with the leaders of Mexico and Australia. But the conversation with Mr. Lavrov and Sergey I. Kislyak, then the Russian ambassador to the United States, prompted tighter restrictions.

Several current and former officials played down the significance of placing the classified calls into the secure system, saying it made sense to restrict the calls given the number of leaks from the Trump White House.

Nevertheless, the use of the system has come under scrutiny after the unclassified version of the whistle-blower complaint was made public. The complaint raised questions that the July 25 call with the Ukrainian president had been improperly placed in the classified system, suggesting that officials put the reconstructed transcript into a system meant to protect the nation’s most sensitive secrets.

The Trump administration said on Friday that National Security Council lawyers had made the decision to place the reconstructed transcript of that phone call into a highly classified computer system accessible to only a small number of officials.

“N.S.C. lawyers directed that the classified document be handled appropriately,” said a senior administration official. The statement was also first reported by CNN.

But the official did not actually say how the document was handled, nor address the whistle-blower’s specific charge that the reconstructed transcript, in what would be a highly unusual action, was moved from a computer system widely accessible to National Security Council officials to one reserved for those with code-word clearance to handle the country’s most closely guarded secrets like covert operations and foreign surveillance.

A White House spokesman did not respond when asked about that specific claim. Democrats in Congress and former N.S.C. officials and lawyers in both parties have said such an action, if motivated by a desire to conceal Mr. Trump’s efforts to put political pressure on the Ukrainian leader, would be far from appropriate, and at a minimum, unethical. But in a combative exchange with reporters later in the day, Kellyanne Conway, a White House counselor, repeated the spokesman’s language, saying that “as I understand, the document was handled appropriately at all times.”

“I think the most important thing about said document is that the whole world has access to it now,” Ms. Conway said, citing its release by the White House this week.

Democrats say the president abused his power by conditioning aid for Ukraine on whether its government investigated one of his 2020 campaign rivals, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., and his son Hunter Biden, and will examine whether that constitutes a high crime and misdemeanor. The treatment of the document will form part of that inquiry.

In his complaint, the whistle-blower said that unnamed White House officials told him that they had been “‘directed’ by White House lawyers” to remove the record of the call from the National Security Council’s main computer system and load it into one managed by the agency’s intelligence directorate that is not connected to the main system and that requires special permissions and enhanced security clearances to access.

That would have the effect of vastly reducing the number of people who can read — and therefore leak — the document, in what the whistle-blower described in his complaint as an acknowledgment that the president’s comments to Mr. Zelensky had been highly improper.

“One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective,” the whistle-blower wrote. His complaint also alleged that other, unspecified presidential transcripts had received similar treatment.

The administration official did not name any of the lawyers involved. The National Security Council is part of the White House and advised by lawyers who report to the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone. The National Security Council’s chief legal adviser is John Eisenberg, a Cipollone deputy.

Mr. Eisenberg also had a role in conducting a preliminary inquiry into the allegations, well before the whistle-blower complaint was filed. Days after the July 25 call, the C.I.A.’s general counsel, Courtney Simmons Elwood, learned of a vague complaint, delivered anonymously, about concerns over a call Mr. Trump had with a foreign leader.

Ms. Elwood then contacted Mr. Eisenberg to begin his inquiry. Mr. Eisenberg and his team began calling people in the National Security Council about their concerns about the call, according to people familiar with the matter. It is not clear if that inquiry included questions of how the records were handled.

Ms. Conway pleaded ignorance of the details of how the National Security Council handles records of foreign leader calls, saying that “the people who handle such things said it was handled appropriately.”

After transcripts of conversations Mr. Trump had with the leaders of Australia and Mexico leaked into the media early in his presidency, she said, “my understanding is that we changed some of the protocols” regarding how records of such calls are managed. Those changes have included limiting the distribution of the call transcripts, something that had been known for some time.

Ms. Conway dodged specific questions about whether it would have been improper for the White House to place the National Security Council’s reconstructed transcript of the Ukraine call into the more secure computer system.

Mr. Trump continued to rage on Twitter on Friday over criticism of his phone call with Mr. Zelensky while he and his allies maintained their effort to deflect attention from the president’s actions and onto the former vice president and Hunter Biden.

“If that perfect phone call with the President of Ukraine isn’t considered appropriate, then no future President can EVER again speak to another foreign leader!” Mr. Trump tweeted.

Comment:

Only other Russian assets in our government are privy to what Trump said to Putin...

There is no proof that Trump's tax returns hide illegal activity. (Other than the millions he has spent in court fees to keep them hidden.) cynical

Excerpt:
Ms. Conway pleaded ignorance of the details of how the National Security Council handles records of foreign leader calls, saying that “the people [Putin's spies] who handle such things said it was handled appropriately.”
glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jan, 2020 12:44 am
@TheCobbler,
Trump declares it's none of our business. We just funnel our tax payments to Trump and he decides how to best use the money to prop up his ego. There will never be enough money for Trump.
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