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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 01:10 pm
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D all of the above...
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 01:34 pm
We live in a country where a 15th woman has said the president raped her and nothing will happen.

- Sarah Silverman
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 01:58 pm
Are Tourists Safer In Mexico Or The US?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/are-tourists-safe-in-mexico_b_1503288
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 02:01 pm
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 04:47 pm
Donald Trump has finally done something that I can respect him for...

Backing out of a war with Iran... The press has painted him into a corner as being weak, which is politics at its very worst.

One should never play politics with the specter of war.

This is not enough for me to ever consider voting for Trump, but it is the one and only time when I have found he has acted in a rational and intelligent manner.

Avoiding war in a show of strength, not weakness.

There is nothing that can convince me to support Trump but this was one step out of many necessary needed steps in the right direction.

This should show you idiot right wing puppets that many of us on the left are not acting strictly along political lines as you clearly are. You are all lower than dirt.

Donald Trump should be impeached along with Pence... At least Trump has in this single case shown some brains.

Diverting war is a strength not a weakness and some in the press should be ashamed for trying to use this for political gain. Bone spurs and taunting him back to the precipice of certain disaster!

If Donald Trump is even remotely remembered for anything good it will surely be this...
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 06:33 pm
@TheCobbler,
You know why I voted for Reagan? Cuz I knew he'd bomb the **** out of the enemy.

You know why I voted for Bush? Cuz I knew he's bomb the **** out of the enemy.

You know why I voted for a 2nd Bush? Cuz I knew he'd bomb the **** out of the enemy.

You know why I didn't vote for Trump? Cuz I knew he wouldn't... ******* chicken ****.

TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 07:06 pm
@neptuneblue,
Iran is not, "the enemy". Iran is Trump's enemy... he pissed them off on purpose. Because he is a racist and gullible puppet of the fundamentalist evangelical "fake Christians".

Apparently you do not have sense to know the difference.

I am sick and tired of these wars that profit the rich while the real problems facing our world are set aside so some greedy bank can profit from the senseless deaths of our people.

Woe unto a country that "bombs the **** out of" another country for unjust reasons...

There is more strength in restraint and peace...
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 07:16 pm
@TheCobbler,
A leader doesn't order an air strike and back it off within minutes to spare. Whatever reason it may be, a leader fully commits to the cause.

Although I do agree Trump pissed off Iran on purpose, I'd not call them friendly or allies to the U.S.

I also agree bombing Iran is not the best strategy. Although, Trump doesn't have a strategic aim for the Middle East. He's sending mixed signals, something we, and the rest of the world, cannot afford.

We could have a philosophical debate on War, in general. That's a very complicated and futile effort.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 07:39 pm
@neptuneblue,
A leader calls off a strike that is unwarranted no matter if there is one minute to spare.

And how foolish will we look when it is found out that Russia was the actual culprit that attacked our drone and ships trying to lure us into a war.

And, remember the Maine??? We attacked Cuba thinking the Maine had been attacked by Spain when it was actually a malfunction on the ship.

Russia would love to see the US in a war on several fronts while our allies have been driven off...

Wikipedia
USS Maine (ACR-1) was a United States Navy ship that sank in Havana Harbor in February 1898, contributing to the outbreak of the Spanish–American War in April. American newspapers, engaging in yellow journalism to boost circulation, claimed that the Spanish were responsible for the ship's destruction.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 07:44 pm
@TheCobbler,
A lot of countries have vested interest in having us in a war with Iran. What's your point?
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 07:46 pm
@neptuneblue,
My point is that those countries that would like to see us in a war with Iran are probably our enemies.

If they dislike Iran so much they should fight them themselves...

It seems more and more unlikely that Iran is not behind any attacks.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 07:49 pm
@TheCobbler,
I said that 2 weeks ago. Where have YOU been?

It's an excuse to place more sanctions. Unless, they call our bluff.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 07:59 pm
Israel hates Iran and Saudi Arabia hates Iran...

They both have reasons to fake and Iranian attack as does Russia who hates the US.

If we take out Iran then the Sunnis have no one to hate so they will turn their hate towards the US or Israel instead.

And remember the 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia not Iran...

Any new war in the Middle East should not be rushed into especially now with our allies driven from our side by Trump's loose canon rhetoric.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 08:05 pm
@TheCobbler,
Yes, all of those factors are correct. Still, not the culprit.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 08:11 pm
@neptuneblue,
We should lift sanctions from Iran and go back to peaceful stance as promised by Trump's predecessor.

Our word cannot be trusted... How can we expect Iran to now stand by their word?

IF Iran is behind the attacks they have a good reason to attack us... Trump reneged on our deal and our word as a country is ****.

This is the consequences of Trump's corrupt business practices of stiffing people and not paying them who have provided a good service to him.

This is the outcome of putting an crooked business man in the office of the President.

It is time for Trump to pay up AND shut up and get off Iran's back and tell his racist warmongering base to STFU.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 08:19 pm
@TheCobbler,
I disagree.

Sanctions need to be increased, but at least be honest about it.

The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate ReleaseJuly 31, 2012

Fact Sheet: Sanctions Related to Iran

“Because of our efforts, Iran is under greater pressure than ever before…Few thought that sanctions could have an immediate bite on the Iranian regime. They have, slowing the Iranian nuclear program and virtually grinding the Iranian economy to a halt in 2011. Many questioned whether we could hold our coalition together as we moved against Iran’s Central Bank and oil exports. But our friends in Europe and Asia and elsewhere are joining us. And in 2012, the Iranian government faces the prospect of even more crippling sanctions.”

President Barack Obama
March 4, 2012

In July 2012, the Obama Administration took two actions to further isolate and penalize Iran for its refusal to live up to its international obligations regarding its nuclear program, and to hold accountable financial institutions that knowingly provide financial services to Iranian banks that are under U.S. sanctions for their connection to illicit activities. These steps are part of President Obama’s commitment to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons by raising the cost of Iran’s defiance of the international community.

Signing Executive Order “Authorizing Additional Sanctions With Respect to Iran”

The Executive Order signed on July 30, 2012 by President Obama expands upon sanctions in section 1245 of the FY 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) to make sanctionable knowingly conducting or facilitating significant transactions with a private or public foreign financial institution or other entity for the purchase or acquisition of Iranian oil.
This sanction is designed to deter Iran or any other country from establishing payment mechanisms for the purchase of Iranian oil to circumvent the NDAA sanctions.

The existing exception rules under the NDAA apply to this new sanction. Thus, countries that are determined to have significantly reduced their volume of purchases of Iranian crude oil will receive an exception from this new measure as well. To date, all major purchasers of Iranian crude have significantly reduced their purchases and received exceptions, demonstrating the success of U.S. sanctions policy in reducing Iranian oil sales and revenues.

Additionally, existing sanctions on Iran’s petrochemical industry are expanded by making sanctionable significant transactions for the purchase or acquisition of Iranian petrochemical products.

Sanctions are also authorized for individuals and entities that provide material support to the National Iranian Oil Company, Naftiran Intertrade Company, or the Central Bank of Iran, or for the purchase or acquisition of U.S. bank notes or precious metals by the Government of Iran.

Imposing Sanctions Under the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2010 (CISADA)

Today, the Department of the Treasury imposed sanctions under CISADA on Bank of Kunlun in China and Elaf Islamic Bank in Iraq, for knowingly facilitating significant transactions or providing significant financial services to Iranian banks designated for their connection to Iran’s support for terrorism or proliferation.

This action exposes the involvement of Bank of Kunlun and Elaf Islamic Bank with designated Iranian banks, in an effort to further stymie Iran’s access to the international financial system. This will also further protect the U.S. financial system from direct or indirect access by designated Iranian banks.

U.S. officials continue to engage with government and financial institutions around the world to inform the international financial community of the risks involved in doing business with Iran.

Building a Comprehensive Sanctions Strategy

Since taking office, President Obama has presented a very clear choice to the Iranian regime: comply with its international nuclear obligations and benefit from the greater economic, political, and security integration that come with being part of the international community, or face growing consequences for non-compliance. Iran has chosen to proceed down the path of international isolation, and has therefore suffered from what President Ahmadinejad called in July 2012, “the most severe and strictest sanctions ever imposed on a country”.

As part of his commitment to show the Iranian government that its actions have consequences, on July 30, 2012 President Obama signed his fifth Executive Order in 12 months targeting Iran for sanctions. These actions have:

Combated Human Rights Abuses Using 21st Century Tools: In an innovative approach to targeting human rights abuses perpetrated by the Iranian and Syrian regimes, President Obama in Executive Order 13606 of April 22, 2012 authorized sanctions and visa bans against those who commit or facilitate grave human rights abuses via information technology. This creative tool also targets the companies that provide the technology these brutal regimes use for oppression, and the “digital guns for hire” who create or operate systems used to monitor, track, and target citizens for killing, torture, or other grave abuses.

Punished Sanctions Evasion: To ensure that sanctions continue to have a tangible impact on Iran, the President in Executive Order 13608 of May 1, 2012 authorized new sanctions against those who engage in activities intended to evade U.S. sanctions.

Blocked Iran’s Access to the International Financial Market: To make it harder for the Iranian regime to work through international financial institutions to finance its nuclear weapons program, President Obama acted in Executive Order 13599 of February 5, 2012 to block all assets of the Government of Iran and all Iranian financial institutions that are within the jurisdiction of the United States.

Hindered Iran’s Oil and Gas Sector: To make it more difficult for Iran to operate, maintain, and modernize its oil and gas sector, President Obama in Executive Order 13590 of November 20, 2011 imposed new sanctions targeting Iran’s petrochemical sector for the first time and expanding energy sanctions.

Partnering with Congress

In addition to using Executive Orders and multilateral sanctions to intensify the consequences for Iran’s failure to comply with its international obligations, the Obama Administration has worked with Congress examining new sanctions legislation, and has made full use of existing legislative authorities.

The FY 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which was enacted in December 2011, contained new sanctions on the Central Bank of Iran that the Administration has used to great effect to undermine Iran’s ability to sell its oil internationally.

In June 2010, President Obama worked with Congress to pass the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability and Divestment Act of 2010 (CISADA), which strengthened existing U.S. sanctions against Iran in the areas of refined petroleum sales, serious human rights abuses, and Iran’s access to the international financial system.

Rallying the International Community

With President Obama’s leadership, the United States gained the support of Russia, China, and other nations to pass United Nations Security Council Resolution 1929 in June 2010, which created the most comprehensive and stinging international sanctions the Iranian regime has ever faced.

The Obama Administration also worked with allies such as the European Union, Japan, the Republic of Korea, Australia, Canada, and others to adopt additional national measures to increase pressure on the Iranian regime, including in the financial, banking, insurance, transportation, and energy sectors. Iran is now cut off from large parts of the international financial system and we are working aggressively to isolate Iran even further. In one of the most recent actions, the European Union’s embargo on Iranian oil went into full effect on July 1. This action, coupled with reductions from other countries, has cost Iran billions of dollars per month thanks to disrupted oil sales of up to 1 million barrels per day.

Targeting the Iranian Regime’s Nuclear Program Through Its Oil Revenues

The Administration has used sanctions to convince major oil companies to withdraw from Iran’s oil fields, leading the Iranian Oil Ministry to acknowledge publicly in 2011 that it is $100 billion short in the investment it needs to develop this sector.

In 2010, Ali Salehi, the former head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, admitted that sanctions have delayed Iran’s enrichment program.
Iran has lost billions in oil revenue, and every major importer of Iranian oil has reduced significantly their purchases of Iranian oil, leading to at an estimated loss of 700,000 – 1,000,000 barrels per day of oil no longer being sold by Iran.

Iran’s currency has plummeted in value, complicating Iran’s ability to engage in international commerce. We estimate that the Rial has lost almost 38 percent of its value in the past year.

Firms as diverse as Ernst & Young, Daimler AG, Caterpillar, ENI, Total, and hundreds more have divested themselves of their interests in Iran to avoid the reputational risks and, consequently, undermined further Iran’s access to the international economy.

Even as we intensify our pressure on the Iranian government, we hold open the door to diplomacy. Iran can choose to abide by its international obligations, honor its commitments to the International Atomic Energy Agency, and prove that its intentions are peaceful. The United States remains committed to a diplomatic solution, but the onus is on Iran. If the Iranian government continues it defiance, there should be no doubt that the United States and our partners will continue to hold Iran accountable.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 08:23 pm
@neptuneblue,
Iran was abiding by the arms agreement, we should not have put sanctions on a country that has been abiding by international agreements! Whether if the sanctions "work" or not...

These "sanctions" are punishing a country for abiding by our terms of peace and provoking them into a war stance!
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 08:27 pm
@TheCobbler,
They are not abiding to any terms. And they are getting help to do it.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 09:23 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
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Uh oh. When you see leftists tweeting about kids in cages, that's a sure sign that leftists are throwing kids in cages again.

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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 09:24 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Iran is not, "the enemy". Iran is Trump's enemy...

More evidence of just how much leftists love terrorists and hate America.
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