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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 06:38 pm
http://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2F66.media.tumblr.com%2F157e86fa445c2c0f01dcb8ae5e81ff95%2Ftumblr_psuy6u3uJj1rpvpqy_540.jpg&hash=af33898d0a05c2bf2b83f01916160f7a
Got to keep up with meme boy.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 07:16 pm
@coldjoint,
Gee. All right except Trump.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 07:24 pm
@MontereyJack,
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All right except Trump.

Trump calls us Americans all the time. I know the term upsets you. You prefer division and confusion.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 07:56 pm
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 08:01 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:
You are aware (I would hope), that Borowitz writes a humorous satirical column for The New Yorker. If you presented that as serious news, I truly feel bad for you.

I have been posting Borowitz in this very tread for the last two years (at least). Do you really think I am not aware it is satire? lol

Maybe you just need a reason to feel bad. Smile
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 09:54 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Fine. Lets have an fbi and doj go over trump with a fine tooth comb too including all the parts he declared behind a red line.

You're already doing that. I'm merely suggesting that Democrats be treated the same way that you are already treating Trump.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 10:02 pm
George Conway to Trump: 'You would have been fired from any other job by now'
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 10:42 pm
@TheCobbler,
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George Conway to Trump:

More old news. No one gives a **** about what Conway says. They are not going to start either.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 10:54 pm
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 10:55 pm
@coldjoint,
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me::As i rrmember something over 100 charges of money laundering, whole lotta russdian gangsters in brooklyn.

coldjoint:How many were against Trump? What an unbelievably stupid excuse.

well, there's a teensy bit of tuth in that. Turns out a whole lot more about Trump and Russian gangsters money laundering in Brooklyn. Just turned out in the last couple of months that monst Russian gangsters money launderi weren't in broolyn at all. They were living in great numbers in (wait for it) Trump Tower. They were buying up fistfuls of his condo apartments and making him rich again after his casinos infamously went bust. Putin co-opted the /Russian mafia. All Trump had to do when he needed a direct line to Russian HQ was walk down a couple floors. NY was ibe f twi states tat akkiwed sheek cirirations to buy real estate, and if you paid in cash rather than getting a mortgae basically you didn't need to tell the feds anything, so you could do lthings illegal anywhere else and it was legal in NY and the Russian mob and putin gamed the system and trump, and he got really rich with them.. Wondering if thiscould be what everybody has thought putin had on trump. A lengthy article but very interesting.

TRUMP'S BUSINESSES AWASH WITH DIRTY RUSSIAN MONEY BUT SHOCKINGLY IT'S LEGAL, WaPo

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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 11:04 pm
BREAKING: The Mexican foreign minister Just Said there was NO agreement by Mexico to buy more U.S. agricultural products.

Trump lied to Americans again.

Why would Mexico buy our food? We buy theirs...
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 11:32 pm
@MontereyJack,
Here's the article. Had to reboot my computer WaPo 3/29/19 TRUMP'S BUSINESSES ARE FULL OF DIRTY RUSSIAN MONEY. THE SCANDAL IS THAT IT'S LEGAL
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Outlook Perspective
Trump’s businesses are full of dirty Russian money. The scandal is that it’s legal.


Shell companies put figures from Putin’s Mafia into Trump Tower. Should that be worrying?


Trump Tower was home to a number of Russian criminals. (Richard Drew/AP)

By Craig Unger
Craig Unger is the author of "House of Trump, House of Putin" and a former contributing editor of Vanity Fair.
March 29
Collusion or not, President Trump and the Russians are thick as thieves.
What I mean is that for more than three decades, at least 13 people with known or alleged links to the Russian Mafia held the deeds to, lived in or ran criminal operations out of Trump Tower in New York or other Trump properties. I mean that many of them used Trump-branded real estate to launder vast amounts of money by buying multimillion-dollar condos through anonymous shell companies. I mean that the Bayrock Group, a real estate development company that was based in Trump Tower and had ties to the Kremlin, came up with a new business model to franchise Trump condos after he lost billions of dollars in his Atlantic City casino developments, and helped make him rich again.
Yet Trump’s relationship with the Russian underworld, a de facto state actor, has barely surfaced in the uproar surrounding Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign. That oversight may be explained in part by journalist Michael Kinsley’s long-held maxim: The real scandal isn’t what’s illegal; it’s what is legal.

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Robert S. Mueller III, of course, is a prosecutor. His job as special counsel, now complete, was to decide whether to indict. But what if some of the most egregious and corrupt offenses are not illegal? Russian President Vladimir Putin has long insisted that American democracy itself is corrupt. Under his aegis, the Russians have methodically studied various components of the American body politic — campaign finance, our legal system, social media and perhaps especially the real estate industry — and exploited every loophole they could find.
As Oleg Kalugin, a former head of counterintelligence for the KGB, told me in an interview for my book “House of Trump, House of Putin: The Untold Story of Donald Trump and the Russian Mafia,” the Mafia amounts to “one of the branches of the Russian government today.” Where Americans cracked down on the Italian American Mafia, Putin dealt with the Russian mob very differently. He co-opted it. He made it an integral part of his Mafia state. Russian gangsters became, in effect, Putin’s enforcers. They had long and deep relationships. According to a tape recording made by former Russian agent Alexander Litvinenko a year before he was fatally poisoned in London, Putin had close ties to Semion Mogilevich, a top mobster, that dated to the early 1990s.
That criminals with ties to Russia bought Trump condos, partnered with Trump and were based at Trump Tower — his home, his place of work, the crown jewel of his empire — should be deeply concerning. It’s not hard to conclude that, as a result, the president, wittingly or not, has long been compromised by a hostile foreign power, even if Mueller did not conclude that Trump colluded or conspired with the Russians.

[One person the Mueller report didn’t ‘exonerate’? Vladimir Putin.]
Let’s go back to 1984, when David Bogatin, an alleged Russian gangster who arrived in the United States a few years earlier with $3 in his pocket, sat down with Trump and bought not one but five condos, for a total of $6 million — about $15 million in today’s dollars. What was most striking about the transaction was that at the time, according to David Cay Johnston’s “The Making of Donald Trump,” Trump Tower was one of only two major buildings in New York City that sold condos to buyers who used shell companies that allowed them to purchase real estate while concealing their identities. Thus, according to the New York state attorney general’s office, when Trump closed the deal with Bogatin, whether he knew it or not, he had just helped launder money for the Russian Mafia.
And so began a 35-year relationship between Trump and Russian organized crime. Mind you, this was a period during which the disintegration of the Soviet Union had opened a fire-hose-like torrent of hundreds of billions of dollars in flight capital from oligarchs, wealthy apparatchiks and mobsters in Russia and its satellites. And who better to launder so much money for the Russians than Trump — selling them multimillion-dollar condos at top dollar, with little or no apparent scrutiny of who was buying them.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 11:39 pm
@coldjoint,
Really gripes you that he's right, doesn't it.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 11:42 pm
@oralloy,
No we're not. <ueller was strongly circumscribed in what he could look at. And Trump is using any excuse he can think of to try to insure that there isn't sny fine tooth comb taken to ALL the slimy things he's done and does everyday. You want a fine tooth comb over Obama Okay. But we get to do the same to trump and it's pretty clear who's got the dandruff and the lice n his hair.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jun, 2019 11:44 pm
@MontereyJack,
What is the nonsense about looking at Trump's private tax records other than a fishing expedition to see if you can catch him in some kind of wrongdoing?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jun, 2019 12:03 am
@coldjoint,
No the term doesn't upset me. What upsets me is trump's wack contention that he has any idea what true American values are or who embodies them. he certainly doesn't, unless you think extreme narcissism is an american value,
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jun, 2019 12:05 am
@MontereyJack,
Trump prevents leftists from violating our civil liberties for fun. That is American values at their finest.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jun, 2019 12:07 am
@oralloy,
Why are you so zealously defending a pretty apparent crook?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jun, 2019 12:08 am
@oralloy,
Yada yada yada Trump defends murderers violating American's civil right for fun..
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 Jun, 2019 12:11 am
@MontereyJack,
You cannot provide any examples of Trump doing any such thing.
 

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