Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

No. What I'm asying is YOU have no idea of how the country and the government and for that matter the military actually organized and work.

So you think the DOJ are going to take it and charge him for lying again based on a few republicans in congress wo recommend it?

He got charged for lying to congress using the same words Trump still used today to defend himself. Think about that.

One way or the other a lot of Trump's tax info is going to be exposed.

What words were those? Please be more specific

On Thursday, after Michael D. Cohen revealed new information about the Trump Organization’s business dealings with Russia, President Trump called his former personal lawyer a liar.

“He is a weak person,” Mr. Trump told reporters at the White House. He added: “Very simply, Michael Cohen is lying.” He was referring to Mr. Cohen pleading guilty to lying to Congress about a real estate deal to build a tower in Moscow.

But Mr. Trump, who is identified as “Individual 1” in court documents that accompanied Mr. Cohen’s admission, was himself less than forthcoming about the prospective real estate project during the 2016 campaign.
At no time did Mr. Trump disclose that the Trump Organization had entered negotiations for the property, known as the Moscow Project. And evidence presented in the documents filed on Thursday contradicts Mr. Trump’s repeated denials of his financial interests in Russia and his playing down of campaign contacts with Russian officials.

According to the documents, Mr. Cohen pursued the project through June 2016 — as Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign gained momentum. At the time, Mr. Cohen served as executive vice president and special counsel for the Trump Organization, which he joined in 2007; he also was a frequent public mouthpiece for the Republican front-runner’s campaign.

Here is the special counsel’s account of the Trump Organization’s efforts to build the Moscow tower, based on new information from Mr. Cohen, compared with what Mr. Trump has said about it.

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What The Charges Say
The Moscow Project was discussed multiple times within the Company and did not end in January 2016. Instead, as late as approximately June 2016, COHEN and Individual 2 discussed efforts to obtain Russian governmental approval for the Moscow Project. COHEN discussed the status and progress of the Moscow Project with Individual 1 on more than the three occasions COHEN claimed to the Committee, and he briefed family members of Individual 1 within the Company about the project.

“I have nothing to do with Russia. I never did.”
On at least 23 occasions since the summer of 2016, Mr. Trump has said either that he had “nothing” to do with Russia, or that he has “no deals,” no investments and no “business” in Russia.

While the Moscow Project never materialized, Mr. Trump never disclosed that he had pursued the deal while running for president. In several instances, his denials were misleading by omission.

“What do I have to do with Russia? You know the closest I came to Russia, I bought a house a number of years ago in Palm Beach, Fla.,” Mr. Trump said at a news conference on July 27, 2016, referring to a mansion he sold to a Russian businessman for $95 million in 2008.

Mr. Trump also repeatedly sought business opportunities in Russia over three decades.

(Repetitions in 2018: Oct. 29, Sept. 7, July 20, July 19, July 18, | Repetitions in 2017: July 25, July 19, May 13, May 11, Feb. 16, Feb. 7, Jan. 11, Jan. 11 | Repetitions in 2016: Oct. 27, Oct. 26, Oct. 25, Oct. 24, Oct. 12, Oct. 9, Sept. 16, July 31, July 26)

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What the charges say
COHEN did recall that in or around January 2016, COHEN received a response from the office of Russian Official 1, the Press Secretary for the President of Russia, and spoke to a member of that office about the Moscow Project.

What Mr. Trump Said.

“There was no talking to Russia. There was no phone calls.”

Mr. Cohen admitted that he called the assistant to the Russian president’s spokesman, at a Moscow-based phone number, and spoke with her about the proposed tower.

Mr. Trump, however, has said at least six times that nobody on his campaign spoke to any Russians. He also has contradicted himself on that point, by describing aides who have admitted to having contact with Russians as “low level” or only briefly employed.

Asked by a reporter on Feb. 16, 2017, whether he was aware if anyone who advised his campaign had contacts with Russia during the campaign, Mr. Trump said his former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, “obviously was dealing.”

But other than Mr. Flynn, “no, no, nobody that I know of,” Mr. Trump answered.

“I have nothing to do with Russia,” he said. “To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.”

(Repetitions in 2018: Oct. 16, Sept. 7, July 18 | Repetitions in 2017: Dec. 15, Feb. 27)

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What the charges say
COHEN agreed to travel to Russia in connection with the Moscow Project and took steps in contemplation of Individual 1’s possible travel to Russia. COHEN and Individual 2 discussed on multiple occasions traveling to Russia to pursue the Moscow Project.

What Mr. Trump Said
“He brings his passport to my office. I say, ‘Hey, wait a minute. He didn’t leave the country. He wasn’t out of the country.' They had, ‘Michael Cohen of the Trump Organization was in Prague.’”

At a news conference on Jan. 11, 2017, Mr. Trump dismissed a salacious dossier that, among other things, claimed that Mr. Cohen had traveled to Prague to meet with Russian officials.

While there is no proof that Mr. Cohen went to Prague on Mr. Trump’s behalf, the lawyer did consider traveling to Russia, according to the charging documents.

According to the documents, Mr. Cohen asked Mr. Trump about the possibility of Mr. Trump himself traveling to Russia “in connection with the Moscow Project.” Mr. Cohen also discussed going to Russia himself.

Trump has repeatedly lied to the American people about Russia.

Ocasio-Cortez threatens to unleash progressive activists on moderate Dems

If any Democrat violates Mr. Trump's privacy, I expect that they will be prosecuted.

But let's see if the courts actually allow Democrats to have this information

Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images
House Democratic loralloy says:eader Nancy Pelosi vowed this week to demand President Trump's tax returns if Democrats win control of the House of Representatives next month.
Pelosi, seeking to regain her gavel as House speaker after elections in November, told The San Francisco Chronicle editorial board that the move "is one of the first things we'd do — that's the easiest thing in the world. That's nothing."

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Federal Lawsuit Against President Trump's Business Interests Allowed To Proceed
Trump, unlike other presidents in recent decades, has refused to make his returns public. He also has refused to divest himself of businesses and investments that could pose domestic or international conflicts of interest. For example, the Trump International Hotel, located just blocks from the White House, regularly hosts events with foreign diplomats, interest groups and industry associations.
By law, taxpayer information is supposed to remain confidential. But as University of Virginia law professor George Yin, author of a 2017 article on the law, told NPR, Congress didn't like being dependent on the executive branch to provide tax records.


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Trump Organization Deals In Asia Fuel Debate On Emoluments Lawsuit
When the "committee access" provision, as it's known, became law in 1924, Congress had been dealing with taxpayers' information in the Teapot Dome scandal afflicting the Harding administration and in a controversy involving former Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon. Like Trump, he had served in government while refusing to avoid conflicts of interest by letting go of his holdings.
The committee access provision has rarely been invoked, but here's how it would work:
For the party in control of the House or Senate, making the request is easy. It would come from the chair of the House Ways and Means Committee (the House panel that writes tax law), Senate Finance Committee or Joint Committee on Taxation. Democrats have been badgering the Republican chairs of those panels to act since February 2017 without success.
Once a request is made, no floor action is necessary. The request would go to Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin, who oversees the IRS — not to the taxpayer in the Oval Office, who would officially be out of the loop. Yin said the 1924 law "gave the tax committees the unqualified right to request the tax returns of any taxpayer."
What would happen next is uncharted territory. Based on recent events, Trump might deploy Justice Department lawyers, and perhaps private lawyers, to fight the request in court. The process might resemble the not-infrequent legal battles over congressional subpoenas for executive branch documents. But the committee access provision has never been before a federal judge.
Were Congress to get access to Trump's returns, it would be easy for lawmakers to disclose the information, despite various privacy protections that exist for taxpayers. The chair or committee with Trump's tax returns could submit them to the full House or Senate if there's a legitimate legislative purpose. At that point, the returns would very likely quickly become available for the public to see on the Internet.
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Yes, oralloy, it is perfectly lawful for congress to get trump's taxes

and let us know

MontereyJack wrote:

Yes, oralloy, it is perfectly lawful for congress to get trump's taxes

Perhaps. But they will first have to convince a judge that they have a valid reason for doing so.

MontereyJack wrote:

and let us know

Wrong. Democrats do not have a right to violate people's privacy.

BillRM wrote:

LOL after hearing Trump former lawyer I am beginning to had lost track of how many likely felonies that our dearly beloved president and his merry men are looking at.

Zero for Trump.

BillRM wrote:

Bank frauds and insurance frauds for one that are both federal and states crimes.
Then we had tax frauds to add to the mix an that also included state and federal tax crimes.

Got any evidence of this?

BillRM wrote:

Anyone wish to guess how long it will be before a state grand jury will issue a true bill again Trump?

Nah.

BillRM wrote:

footnote it was very very unwise to had issue checks for the one sex payoff and then wrongly list that expense as attorney legal fees on the Trump company books.

Meh.

BillRM wrote:

As Trump once said lock her or in this case him up.

Not when he hasn't done anything wrong.

And not when the Democrats allowed Bill Clinton to wantonly break the law.

But leftists should get their records ready for the IRS to audit, as sooner or later Mr. Trump is going to tire of this witch-hunt and start responding in kind.

Plenty of evidence including checks that our beloved President had sign and email and so on and on we go.

Yes I can understand why Trump would care to reduce his taxes by claiming that his payments to Stormy was a normal business expense but lord was it a stupid thing to do.

BillRM wrote:

Plenty of evidence including checks that our beloved President had sign and email and so on and on we go.

Paying a slut to keep quiet about his sex life is hardly a crime.

BillRM wrote:

Yes I can understand why Trump would care to reduce his taxes by claiming that his payments to Stormy was a normal business expense but lord was it a stupid thing to do.

Do you have any evidence of tax improprieties?

If so, I'm sure he can cut a check to pay any additional money that he owes the IRS. No big deal.

LOL listing a large personal expense as a business expense on a firm books is a crime at both the federal and state levels my silly friend.

Lock him up .................