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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 08:30 pm
@coldjoint,
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Your meme is mistaken the planner of Benghazi was convicted.

I think you are misinterpreting what Region Philbis posted.
https://i.imgur.com/SWMyc12.jpg
It is comparing the results of Trey Gowdy's Congressional Benghazi Committee to Robert Mueller's current investigation. The former went on over 2 years, cost about $7 million, and really came up with zilch. Mueller, so far, has been piling up indictments and guilty pleas, and is still moving ahead full steam..

So you are the one mistaken.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 08:35 pm
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Media Blackout: 13-Year-Old Girl Was Decapitated By Pair Of Illegal Aliens In Alabama

Happened 8 days ago. First time I have seen it. Vote Democratic and get ready to read something like it again, and again.
Quote:

*This story has received only local coverage, while ignored by the national press.And, all but one of the the local sources (WAFF) reporting on the grisly murder have omitted the fact that both of the suspects are in the country illegally.

Also conspicuously absent from all coverage, is the fact that Aguilar was arrested in Madison County on disorderly conduct and a DUI charge, and despite his illegal status, was released back into the community in December 2015.

Who controls the MSM?



http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/drug-crimes/media-blackout-13-year-old-girl-was-decapitated-by-pair-of-illegal-aliens-in-alabama/
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 08:36 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
It is comparing the results of Trey Gowdy's Congressional Benghazi Committee to Robert Mueller's current investigation. The former went on over 2 years, cost about $7 million, and really came up with zilch. Mueller, so far, has been piling up indictments and guilty pleas, and is still moving ahead full steam..
Mueller is a prosecutor. So far as I'm aware, the congressional committee had no prosecutorial powers.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 08:44 pm
@oralloy,
So? That graphic is simply comparing the results of those two investigations--one headed by Gowdy, the other by Mueller..

It also makes the point that Mueller's investigation isn't going on "too long", particularly if you compare it to the one headed by Gowdy, and particularly since Mueller is actually getting concrete results.



coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 08:51 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
So? That graphic is simply comparing the results of those two investigations

Indictments, accepting guilty pleas, and convicting someone is not a job the Congress can even do. Bogus. The meme is a false correlation.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 08:55 pm
@coldjoint,
That doesn't explain why you misinterpreted the graphic.
layman
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 09:06 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

So? That graphic is simply comparing the results of those two investigations--


Results? An indictment is not a conviction, it is merely an unproven allegation and one which will never be proven in this particular case. There weren't even 12 indictments recently, there was just one, for conspiracy. Once you allege a conspiracy you can just start throwing in all kinds of names, willy-nilly, because, beyond "agreement" you don't need to show that a co-conspirator did anything illegal.

There has not been a single indictment, let alone conviction, of any American for conspiracy or "collusion" with Russia.

$30-$40 million for THAT aint "results." It's merely showing that the taxpayers have been bilked.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 09:08 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
That doesn't explain why you misinterpreted the graphic.

I guess it doesn't, the graphic is based on a lie about the power Congress has. My misinterpretation has no bearing on that fact.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 09:09 pm
@coldjoint,
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Vote Democratic and get ready to read something like it again, and again.

Stop posting this sort of inane garbage.

Crimes committed by one or two illegal immigrants are indicative of nothing. You are over-generalizing to the point of absurdity.

And voting Democratic will not increase crime of any sort. Try staying within the bounds of reality--if you can. Rolling Eyes

When you push your propaganda stereotypes in this manner, you destroy whatever little shreds of credibility and rationality you might have left because your over-the-top stereotypes defy basic logic.

firefly
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 09:26 pm
@layman,
Give Mueller time, first he has to document the crime--which involves the Russians who have been indicted--then the next step would be to identify any Americans that assisted or colluded with them.
And Rosenstein, on Friday, hinted that was coming when he urged everyone to view the ongoing findings in a non-partisan patriotic manner. That suggests the next revelations might be Americans and might be jolting.

Actually, anyone who is genuinely patriotic should want Mueller to take his time and build the strongest possible cases against anyone involved with tampering/meddling with our election process--and expose all possible culprits.

Meanwhile, I think the evidence Mueller has piled up thus far does have people wondering about the answer to this question.
https://images.dailykos.com/images/513984/story_image/IDIOT_OR_TRAITOR.jpg?1520006211
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 10:21 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Stop posting this sort of inane garbage.

Make me. That is not inane, that is a terrible thing that should not have happened.
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Crimes committed by one or two illegal immigrants are indicative of nothing.


Why aren't they? Every time an illegal commits a crime something we can count on more.


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And voting Democratic will not increase crime of any sort.

Yes it will, if they continue to stall while more illegals arrive. We do not need that, it leads to what my post was about.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 10:26 pm
@firefly,
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Give Mueller time, first he has to document the crime

Do you think the investigation will cause Trump to leave office? That is not going to happen. It does not matter how much time Mueller has. It can go to 2024 and Trump will leave voluntarily.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 06:12 am
@coldjoint,
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Do you think the investigation will cause Trump to leave office?...Trump will leave voluntarily.

Nixon left office voluntarily too.

Trump's presidency might end the same way Nixon's did.

No real point speculating now, we have to see how the evidence continues to materialize, and how Trump continues to conduct himself.
revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 06:33 am
It is almost beside the point if this probe leads to impeachment. It is more important to find out how the meddling all came down and who was involved either knowingly or unknowingly. With Trump kissing Putin's butt, it does not shed him in a good light and with all the connections which have been so far discovered, it further makes the whole Trump campaign look suspicious at the very least. Whether that will amount to impeachment, I doubt it in today's political climate. It should in my opinion for a host of reasons. Even if we buy that Trump had nothing to do with all this Russian meddling stuff, he has not helped in any way to shed light on the whole thing, nor has made any steps to stop any future meddling in the future. And with him meeting Putin today, it's just mind boggling how he can continue to act in this manner with the republicans not doing something about it.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 09:00 am
@firefly,
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we have to see how the evidence continues to materialize,

Don't you mean fabricated? There is no evidence, and nothing they find will have any credibility anyway. Time to hang it up. Trump has won in the court of public opinion. The MSM is not the judge here, the people are.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 09:22 am
@coldjoint,
Now you've disolved into flat out denials of reality.

It's a pointless waste of time trying to have a reality-based discussion with you. You will persist in regurgitating untruths, and posting obvious propoganda that supports your self-deluded vilews and personal prejudices.

Go beg for attention elsewhere---you're not ready for a seat at the adult table.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 09:29 am
@firefly,
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You will persist in regurgitating untruths, and posting obvious propoganda that supports your self-deluded vilews and personal prejudices.

What is untrue? You will have to prove it is untrue since you have said it is.
Please begin, what is he first untruth, and do not forget to prove it.

ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 09:30 am
@firefly,
anyone who is genuinely patriotic should want x to take their time and build the strongest possible cases

__

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/benghazi-committee-special-counsel-robert-mueller/index.html

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South Carolina Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy, who chaired the Benghazi Select Committee for more than two years,


If Mueller is considered to be wasting time after a year, Gowdy must think about what his two years of no results is worth.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 09:31 am
@ehBeth,
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anyone who is genuinely patriotic

Says you? Laughing Laughing Laughing
maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 09:32 am
@coldjoint,
Says you too....when it was against Clinton, Obama, and Hillary
 

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