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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 02:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Thu June 15, 2017

Again? Why is there no evidence presented by now?
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 02:26 pm
@coldjoint,
???????????
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
???????????

Did you see the date of your source?
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 02:43 pm
@coldjoint,
So?
cicerone imposter
 
  5  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 02:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
More recently, the courts overruled Trump's ban on immigrants from predominantly Muslim countries. He said "Muslims" when he made the initial executive order. He's now backtracked. From the Atlantic.
Quote:
Trump initially called for a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on”
We all knew Trump is a bigot, and contrary to our Constitution, he almost got away with his bigotry against Muslims. What is going on is the exposure of Trump's bigotry to the whole world.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:04 pm
For 2020. Laughing Laughing Laughing
https://rlv.zcache.com/not_this_b_tch_again_png_png_poster-rc3cdf7cbbccb467ba3e133f1c6642146_wv3_8byvr_261.jpg?rvtype=content
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:06 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
Right, they're worried about real obstruction charges--and they should be worried.
No such charges. The only obstruction charges here are the ones that you are imagining.

firefly wrote:
Why do you think Trump's been working so hard to try to discredit Mueller and calling his investigation "a rigged witch-hunt"? He is trying to insulate himself, in the public's mind, against any criminal involvements Mueller might find against him.
He is right to do so. This witch hunt is shameful.

firefly wrote:
It sure is obstruction if the president tries to close down a criminal investigation when he, or members of his family, are likely subjects of that investigation.
No. The obstruction statute is about interfering with investigations that the government is trying to pursue.

It does not criminalize a government decision to stop pursuing an investigation.

firefly wrote:
And it would qualify as a "high crime or misdemeanor".
Not after Bill Clinton it won't.

firefly wrote:
That's why even Rudy Giuliani has said he doesn't believe Trump would ever fire Mueller. Legal experts pretty much agree that if Trump did that he would set off a profound constitutional crisis. That would be the end of his presidency.
Nah. All it would do is set of a big temper tantrum on the left.

But firing Mueller is more hassle than it is worth. Pardons are the way to defang this witch hunt.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
he almost got away with his bigotry against Muslims.

Trump knows the more Muslims the more terror. Leaders throughout the free world know the same. That you call it bigotry is denying reality, something you do on a regular basis.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
That doesn't mean anything.
Wrong. It means that the entire power and authority of the executive branch lies with the President.

cicerone imposter wrote:
Limits on Executive Orders
Executive orders are not unchecked strokes of power from the president's pen; they can be challenged and deemed unlawful by federal courts. In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court determined during the Korean War that executive orders must fit within a certain sphere of power and cannot simply defy Congressional intent.
That does not change the fact that the entire power and authority of the executive branch lies with the President.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Trump went so far as to claim he can pardon himself. That's contrary to the basic tenants of law which states nobody is above the law.
No longer a basic tenant of the law. Since you say it is OK for Bill Clinton to be above the law, it is also OK for Donald Trump to be above the law.

Not that Donald Trump has violated the law.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:09 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Trump went so far as to claim he can pardon himself.
If he were really an innocent man, why would he even feel the need to make such a claim?
Because the Democrats have a habit of convicting innocent people of imaginary crimes.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
True except the possible obstruction of justice charge being investigated by Mueller.
Mueller probably understands that it isn't obstruction when the official in charge of an investigation decides to stop pursuing the investigation.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
That's funny. Bill Clinton is a free man.
That doesn't change the fact that it is really silly of you to harangue Trump about things that don't rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.
firefly
 
  4  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:15 pm
Trump's schnooks actually deny reality and believe the liar-in-chief. Laughing
http://themoderatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/cjones05222017-1-e1495169948362.jpg

And he loves them for it...
https://i.imgflip.com/18t5va.jpg
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
coldjoint wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
coldjoint wrote:
Quote:
Thu June 15, 2017
Again? Why is there no evidence presented by now?
???????????
Did you see the date of your source?
So?
So why is there no evidence presented by now?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:18 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
Trump's schnooks actually deny reality
No. The only people denying reality here is the TDS crowd.
firefly
 
  4  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:21 pm
@oralloy,
http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/animated-laughing-gif-7.gif
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cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:21 pm
@oralloy,
Evidence of what?
Blickers
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:28 pm
@oralloy,
The evidence for Obstruction Of Justice is right there on TV, Trump talking to Lester Holt about why he fired James Comey.

Trump's admission of Obstruction Of Justice starts at the 53 second mark and ends at the 1 minute 15 second mark.


"But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey-KNOWING there was no good time to do it. And in fact when I decided to just do it I said to myself, I said you know, This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story it's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won."
oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2018 03:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Evidence of what?
Evidence of the imaginary crimes that you keep talking about.
 

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