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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 11:46 am
@firefly,
It's already corroded.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 12:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That's also a consequence of his getting news exclusively from his favorite source.
https://www.heatherhastie.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Lies-6.jpg
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 01:15 pm
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/80/d7/cb80d7be7ba9681857eb799aa9665b46.jpg
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 03:10 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
One person's vote does not make a democracy. Nor does it represent democracy.

Add that to the other stupid things you have said. Voting is what democracy is all about.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 03:12 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
That sort of stuff can have a very corrosive effect on a person's ability to adequately understand reality,

Don't tell me, I have seen the effects of progressive brainwashing close up. You are a prime example.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 03:32 pm
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Is Hillary Clinton secretly planning to run in 2020?

That would be a godsend. She can close the Mueller investigation. Is this what Democrats want?
https://nypost.com/2018/07/07/is-hillary-clinton-secretly-planning-to-run-in-2020/

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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 04:18 pm
Trump's diplomacy of personal chemistry is facing a huge test

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/08/politics/trump-kim-personal-diplomacy/index.html

So far it hasn't gotten him very far with Kim, he's antagonized our closest allies, and I doubt he'll press Putin very hard on the election meddling issue because that would interfere with building up good "chemistry".

Unfortunately, he hasn't learned that international diplomacy isn't the same as working out a real estate deal in NYC.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 04:28 pm
@firefly,

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Trump's diplomacy of personal chemistry is facing a huge test

Laughing Laughing Laughing Does CNN haz a sad?
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 04:31 pm
Quote:
Sen. Dick Durbin: Trapped Thai Soccer Team Like Detained Illegal Immigrants

What an idiot. Why doesn't he want to be president, he is kind of special.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32755/sen-dick-durbin-trapped-thai-soccer-team-detailed-emily-zanotti
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 04:40 pm
@firefly,
Working diplomacy and real estate is comparing apples and walnuts. No relationship. That's the reason why Trump is ill suited in his job. Real estate is simpe; you have a buy and a seller. Diplomacy has many issues to contend with, and Trump is too ignorant to learn what they are. It's not about one buyer and one seller. Politics is mired in personality as well as international laws.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 05:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Politics is mired in personality as well as international laws.

International laws are non binding. Countries only follow them if they wish to. Try again.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 05:15 pm
@coldjoint,
I hope you're not under the misguided opinion that your posts would convince anyone to support Trump. 🤣

It's more likely that your numerous sequential posts simply remind people of the saying, "Shallow brooks are noisy."
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 05:50 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
I hope you're not under the misguided opinion that your posts would convince anyone to support Trump.

In that case, what are you worried about?
Quote:
"Shallow brooks are noisy."

And nature abhors a vacuum, but here you are.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 05:53 pm
https://www.yourtango.com/sites/default/files/styles/body_image_default/public/image_list/Trump13.jpg?itok=YT2oR2YC
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 06:12 pm

https://i.imgur.com/ULhZ7BK.jpg

tell your like-minded friends and family members...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 06:15 pm
@firefly,
Trump is able to smile a lot because he's too ignorant to realize how unpopular he is around the world. Currently at 37% approval and 57% disapproval, there's nothing to be happy about for himself or the world.
From FiveThirtyEight: Based on approval ratings one year into a first term, Trump is the most unpopular president since at least Harry Truman (as far back as we have data).
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 06:29 pm
@Region Philbis,
Don't worry. Trump is our best motivator to go out and vote blue. California is already seeing the results of the Trump presidency. Texas has been a red state for a very long time, and only Austin seems to be liberal. Houston is a big question mark only because of its large Hispanic population, but it's still 50% white. From Wiki: Politics
In 2013 Allen Turner of the Houston Chronicle reported that residents of Harris County were "consistently conservative in elections," voting for Republican candidates in local, state and federal elections. But, according to a Rice University Kinder Institute for Urban Research 2013 opinion poll, they were surprisingly liberal on a variety of hot-button social topics, "such as immigration, gun control and equal matrimonial rights for same-sex couples".[21]
Immigration is a hot topic issue this year. Does that mean Houston voters might lean liberal and against Trump?
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2018 07:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Trump is able to smile a lot because he's too ignorant to realize how unpopular he is around the world.

When are you going to figure out Trump does not care? Try again.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2018 03:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
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Diplomacy has many issues to contend with, and Trump is too ignorant to learn what they are.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7f/25/56/7f2556d5acc48c59c4a2c50bc0f7827c.jpg
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2018 03:33 am
Trump Reeks of Fear

By Charles M. Blow
Opinion Columnist
July 8, 2018

I can smell Donald Trump’s fear from here. His panic. His anxiety.

And yet, I don’t have a full picture of what is causing it.

The only people who know what has been discovered in the Russian election meddling probe are Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his team, and they aren’t talking.

But President Trump no doubt knows far more about it than the rest of us, and what he knows — or what he fears — appears to be a consuming preoccupation. He tweets about the investigation constantly.

Part of this is an overt play to bend public opinion, to besmirch whatever conclusions the investigation might reach and to ward off any attempt at a possible impeachment.

As The New York Times reported last week about the president and his legal team:

“They have come to believe that, if the Democrats win control of the House in November, the chamber will vote on whether to begin the impeachment process no matter the outcome of Mr. Mueller’s investigation. So they want to sway Americans — and by extension, lawmakers.”

The Times quoted Rudy Giuliani, one of the president’s lawyers, as saying, “Nobody is going to consider impeachment if public opinion has concluded this is an unfair investigation, and that’s why public opinion is so important.”

Politico reported on this strategy in May, writing: “President Donald Trump and his lawyers have made a strategic calculation that their fight against Special Counsel Robert Mueller is more political than it is legal. They’re banking that the lead Russia investigator will follow longstanding Justice Department practice that a sitting president can’t be indicted, and that the only real threat to Trump’s survival is impeachment.”

Politico continued:

“So long as that theory holds, Trump’s plan is to forcefully challenge Mueller in the arena he knows best — not the courtroom but the media, with a public campaign aimed at the special counsel’s credibility, especially among Republican voters and G.O.P. members of Congress.”

In May, CNN’s Dana Bash interviewed Giuliani, and she posited that the “Spygate” saga was “an intentional strategy to undermine the investigation, knowing that they, the investigators, the special counsel, it’s their policy not to talk. But you are very free to and are very aggressive about doing so.”

Giuliani responded in part:

“Of course, we have to do it in defending the president. We are defending — to a large extent, remember, Dana, we are defending here, it is for public opinion, because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach, not impeach. Members of Congress, Democrat and Republican, are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. So, our jury is the American — as it should be — is the American people.”

Yes, there is some impeachment fervor on the left, some that party leaders have tried to tamp down, fervor even in advance of Mueller’s findings. But there also appears to be very real impeachment fear in the Trump inner circle.

One has to ask: Why exactly is impeachment front of mind for these people? If they were as innocent as they publicly proclaim, they would know that impeachment would be out of the question as a matter of fact and law. But that is apparently not the case.

Do they believe that Democrats would take the politically disastrous step of moving to impeach Trump even if Mueller fully exonerated him?

I don’t believe so. I believe that Trump is conducting himself as only a guilty man would, one who has a very real and well-founded fear that he is in imminent jeopardy.

He is girding for the fight.

In May, Trump added Emmet T. Flood, a lawyer who represented Bill Clinton during his impeachment, to his legal team.

And in May 2017, CNN reported: “White House lawyers have begun researching impeachment procedures in an effort to prepare for what officials still believe is a distant possibility that President Donald Trump could have to fend off attempts to remove him from office, two people briefed on the discussions tell CNN.”

Impeachment is always on Trump’s mind, and so he relentlessly pursues his strategy of creating a climate of incredulity to ward it off.

Just on Saturday, he tweeted: “Public opinion has turned strongly against the Rigged Witch Hunt and the ‘Special’ Counsel because the public understands that there was no Collusion with Russia (so ridiculous), that the two FBI lovers were a fraud against our Nation & that the only Collusion was with the Dems!”

But that strategy of discrediting the investigation seems to be working almost exclusively among Trump’s base. As CNN reported in May about “a slight negative shift overall” in public approval of Mueller’s handling of the investigation:

“Just about all of that change has come from Republicans, who now give Mueller a 17 percent approval rating, down from 29 percent in March. Among Democrats and independents, approval ratings for Mueller have not changed significantly.”

Trump has done and said many heinous things as president and before, but it is highly unlikely that any would be solid ground for a successful impeachment. However, damning findings from Mueller would create that solid ground.

Yet Trump contends that there’s no there there. If not, why is he acting like there is?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/opinion/trump-mueller-impeachment.html
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