@Blickers,
Quote:The exact reverse is true-the seniors don't care enough about Social Security and Medicare. If they did, they would never vote Republican. Republicans have come out with one proposal to do away with or severely curtail those programs after another.
You are proving my point. The only worth old people hold to the DNC, is for their votes on SS and Medicaid. None of their other opinions are valued or talked about by the DNC, and when those old people do talk, they are shouted down as being racists or some other negative term. If old people would only shut up and vote for their SS and Medicaid, the world would be a better place.
Quote:Bush 43 even tried repeatedly to allow young people to divert a significant part of their Social Security payment to a personal account.
Yes, it was young people like me, at the time I would have been in my late 20's, who wanted a chance to have a better retirement than SS. Nothing would have changed for those people who were of a certain age when the change would have gone into effect. I'm going to be 45 this year and we already know the dire situation that SS is going to be in in the next 15 to 20 years, so far we are on track with the predictions from the early 2000's.
Quote:Since older people paid for the previous generation when they were young, now that they are older Bush 43 wanted to allow the young generation to gradually stop paying for them. It would bankrupt the system.
The whole point of SS was to pay into a system that would provide for you later in life. This focus and change to paying for current retirees with current payments became a thing when they realized SS was never going to be able to provide for future people. We are still using a WWII era system for retirement planning. This is why I call out your side as the Conservatives in this debate, it's your refusal to change or even modify an old system.
Quote:But the very fact that a majority of Republican supported the Republican President's plan to kill Social Security and Medicare ought to be enough to prevent any senior from voting Republican again-unless they are so wealthy that Social Security and Medicare payments are not a significant addition to their income or payment for their medical bills.
Thank you for again proving my point. Old people need to shut up and just vote for their stuff, we don't care about the rest of your ideals as long as you vote for SS and Medicaid. A 70 year old system is going to work perfect in this day and age of the internet not to mention in another 30 years... I can't wait to eat cat food, I'll remember this conversation when I open my first can and know it's this wonderful almost 100 year old system I have to thank.