@Baldimo,
Take a look at some of the excuses Baldimo has come up trying to avoid the question of what we are supposed to do to prevent the top 1%, (which have increased their share of the country's wealth in the last 37 years from 24% to 43%), from owning 99% of the country's wealth in forty years, for that is the rate they have been taking the wealth from the rest of us since 1980.
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:The problem for the last several years has been lack of growth, below 2% on average for most of Obama's administration, not including 2008 and 2009. The slowest recovery in the history of the US economy
Irrelevant and wrong. The wealthy has been accumulating an additional fifth of the economy in the past 3+ decades during times of high growth and low growth, so that dodge won't work. And when Obama first took office, the previous quarter under the previous administration the economy DECLINED-not grew-at annual rate of -8.3%. Obama's last quarter the economy grew at an annual rate of +1.7%. That's an increase of a 10.0% annual rise in GDP-hardly the slowest recovery in history. In order to match Obama's improvement in the economy, Trump has to average a GDP increase of 11.7% per year during his term, however long that is. He won't come near that.
Quote Baldimo:
Quote: The 1%f isn't some shady group of people meeting in a dark room. If they are, they are all DNC supporters. Have you seen the top 10 richest people list? It's filled with DNC supporters,
Again, this response fails to deal with the issue being discussed, which is how do we prevent the wealthiest 1% from owning 99% of the country's wealth in forty years, because that is the rate they are gobbling up the nation's wealth.
I don't care if the top ten wealthiest people are democrats or republicans, I just don't want 1% of the people owning 99% of the wealth in the country, for that will bring them total political control as well as economic control.
Quote Baldimo:
Quote: There is no way in any economy that has freedom where this will not happen.
[/color] That's odd, there are plenty of countries that have a high amount of freedom yet their 1% doesn't own 99% of their economy like our 1% is slated to do at the present rate. You have a strange idea of what the economic world looks like.
Quote Baldimo:
Quote: There is no way the owner and founder of Amazon should own about as much of the economy as the person working in an Amazon warehouse, or even a person who works as a computer programmer for their website. If you think they should, then there really isn't anything to debate.
Quite the opposite, I made clear that I don't mind if some people are quite wealthy, as long as the economy improves so the 99% improves as well. However, the problem-which you are scrupulously avoiding answering-is that while the economy continues to grow, the wealthy 1% keep taking a bigger and bigger piece of it every year so the 99% ends up with little to no improvement in their standard of living. And you won't even address the issue.
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:Unless they take away the ability to vote in elections, then I don't see this happening [the 99% losing political power when the 1% own 99% of the country's wealth].
Really? You don't think economic power translates into political power? Elections cost money-hell, even getting nominations costs money. Once the 1% take over 99% of the country's wealth, virtually all nominees with the money to win will be getting almost all their financial support from the 1%, since they will be the only people in the country with the wherewithal to contribute to political campaigns.When the 1% owns 99% fo the wealth, they will not be challenged politically.
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:Support a strong 3rd party to keep the power defused down to the people instead of the hands of the 3 big parties who are the ones being bought off.
What lovely stirring words! Unfortunately, those candidates who promote the interests of the 99% won't be able to mount a serious campaign due to lack of funds, since the only source of funding will be the 1% who own everything. Who won't fund Mr, (Ms), 99%.
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:I see what your saying but unless the rich somehow come up with a way of stopping people from starting a business, then all you are auguring with is fear mongering against the wealthy.
Very successful businessmen will join the 1%, and proceed to own their individual share of 99% of the wealth in America. So how does this change anything?
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:You uterlly and completly fail to take into effect how our way of life has changed since the 1980's. The people who have become wealthy in the last 40 years have do by taking advantage of advancements in technology which has moved us forward.
Yes, and they have been accumulating taking all the wealth of the country away from the 99% for the past 37 years. Along with those in older industries like oil, of course. So how does this prevent the wealthy 1% from accumulating 99% of the wealth of the country, as they are on schedule to do in 40 years? It doesn't. You continue to dodge my question, because you are fine with the 1%, you think they're your kind of people.