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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 02:27 pm
Singer of national anthem at Seahawks-Titans game takes a knee
http://abcnews.go.com/US/singer-national-anthem-seahawks-titans-game-takes-knee/story?id=50065070&cid=social_fb_abcn
andy31
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 02:38 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo, I'm afraid you are wasting your breath. Mr. Cobbler here is so deeply cemented to Leftist narrative, blinded by repeated lies and baseless talking points that his mind is like hopeless building that would have to be demolished by bulldozer and start over.

And like I said, you can take the results of his ideology ( Cuba, Venezuela, etc.) rubbed to his nose and he still will smile and tell you he like it. That's the kind of zombie's mentality we are dealing with..

He is giving me some list of made up stories by extreme left propaganda machine and challenging me to argue about it. I mean... 5 year old could place every one of his points in the "lie box" but... Is it worth it?

Cobbler, I don't want to insult you in any way. Inside, you might be a good man, but I would sacrifice paying 50% for your trip to your dream land Cuba to live for one month among people there, not as a tourist in designated hotel, but with regular people. Than when you come back, we can continue our debate. Deal???. Ooh wait... It would not work Cubans will watch your every step like they do with every foreigner so the truth will not come out. So thats out of the question..
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 02:44 pm
McCain: Trump never apologized for saying I wasn't a war hero
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/24/mccain-trump-vietnam-war-hero-243073
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 02:51 pm
@andy31,
What makes you think I am a socialist or communist?

I asked you to back you your side of the argument and you return with complete drivel. You can't defend your side so you need to resort to insinuations and innuendo. There is a mental sickness in that sort of denial.

I am a capitalist who believes in "regulated" capitalism.

You vote for a traitor and call yourself a patriot?

You are nothing more than a shill for the fascist and racist GOP oligarchy.
andy31
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:05 pm
@TheCobbler,
Hey Cobler, that's exactly what your base want you to do: hate your country, disrespect the flag and national anthem, spread the hate, chaos, violence, and demoralization. And you are falling into it like a blind ship doing everything that your secret boss George Soros telling you. Btw he is another one of your rich big supporter. Im sure he is your favorite for black-dressing and financing all your fascistic street fighting storm groups.
He gave birth to most of today's radical left propaganda organizations.
You must be proud to have him behind your leftist agenda.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:06 pm
Even The Bribe Is Bogus: Alaska And Other States Get Screwed Under Graham-Cassidy
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/25/bribe-bogus-graham-cassidy-harm-alaska-holdout-states.html

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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:17 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Bob Mueller Drops the Hammer on Mike Pence, Ruins the GOP’s Dream of a Pence Presidency!

The Republicans have the White House for the next 20 years. I have no idea if Pence will be the Republican to follow after Trump's eight years, but the odds of Mueller doing any sort of harm to Pence are pretty close to zero.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:18 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Singer of national anthem at Seahawks-Titans game takes a knee

My browser doesn't like ABC News links for some reason. But I think I know enough from your headline.

The singer is a scumbag who supports the murder of police officers. Maybe one day when the singer really needs urgent police protection, the police will forget to come.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:27 pm
@oralloy,
Are you suffering from some sort of brain trauma?
andy31
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:31 pm
@TheCobbler,
What makes me think you're commonest is your beliefs and views that you very well laid out here. Just because you trying to hide under the cover off capitalist doesn't mean you are not communist in your beliefs. Besides if you would know a little more about the system you adore so much You would understand that your so call control capitalism is another name you invented for socialism, one step from communism.

Now you want me to buck up something that is a common knowledge, is like backing up that day follows night. Senseless.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:33 pm
@andy31,
No one is disrespecting the flag on the left, we are respecting and exercising the US constitution's guarantee to the right to protest... Police brutality and mass incarceration of black people for GOP profit? I refuse to stand with a cheating and loser republican party that supports that!

It is your Nazi fascist confederate flag bearers that Trump and your ilk love that has done the most damage to our flag all over the world! Our flag is the ridicule of most nations thanks to YOU and YOUR idiot President!

These are not people on the left idiot! They are part of YOUR traitorous party!
DO YOU SEE A SINGLE U.S. FLAG THERE???!
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.JUjyXT29nZQ66wu3Fi4qfQEsDH&pid=15.1

As I said, I am a capitalist, I don't support racist scumbag billionaires on the right out of deeply held principles of my own, not like your loyalty to a greedy party that has adopted racism en masse.

I am proud of Soros, I don't always agree with everything he stands for but most of it. I am a free thinker and I agree with the democratic party on a whole host of issues from gay marriage to a woman's right to choose.

I am a proud patriotic American who is ashamed of what YOUR party has done to our country's image, all in the name of the GOP's greed, misogyny and racism.

You can shift the blame all you want but it still lands on you.

Nearly all of the President's cabinet are using private email servers! Not a word from you about that?!!! What about national security!!!???

You are quite disingenuous and a hypocrite with very little virtue as a human being.

We on the left far outnumber you racists on the right and the next election will surely bring us in numbers to the voting box to eradicate your party from our electorate...
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:35 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
Are you suffering from some sort of brain trauma?

Nope. Can you offer a challenge to any of the facts that I presented?

Or can you offer a compelling moral argument in favor of murdering police officers, that would put these thugs in a more positive light when they advocate such murders?

Personally I'm happy to stake out the "murdering police officers is wrong" territory for the conservative side if liberals really want to be in favor of murdering police officers.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:37 pm
@oralloy,
I assume you only support the murder of "black" police officers... (cynical)


oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:39 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
No one is disrespecting the flag on the left, we are respecting and exercising the US constitution's guarantee to the right to protest... Police brutality and mass incarceration of black people for GOP profit?

It is hardly brutality for police officers to prevent black people from murdering them.


TheCobbler wrote:
Nearly all of the Presidents cabinet are using private email servers!

I'm not saying it isn't true, but is there a cite for that?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:40 pm
@TheCobbler,
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Our billionaires on the left aren't greedy racist pigs.. BIG DIFFERENCE.

They are multinational corporations who influence the govt to make sure the business and share holders make as much money as possible. Their only intention is to own as much of the market share as possible and make their corp #1. Don't fool yourself into thinking anything else just because they share your left leaning political beliefs.

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We on left support our billionaires because they support charities that help and support "all" people.

Pfft. Window dressing for tax write offs just like a majority of the wealthy. If they really cared about such things, they wouldn't take the write offs, they would just give the money away. I would be more impressed if they lead from the front and paid their full taxes without write offs. Until then their "charities" mean little to me.

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Unlike your fascist billionaires on the right who are nothing but sour old greedy men and women using religion to hide their dirty and dastardly deeds. i.e. Trump, the Kochs, the Waltons, Papa John...

Fascist... the word of the year. I'm pretty much going to ignore anything labeled by people such as yourself, It's just another misused buzz word by the extreme left.

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We are proud of our billionaires on the left... Yes, Gates, Soros, Zuckerberg... they support "accurate" science and ethical technologies,

I'm all for accurate science and ethical technologies as well, but that doesn't really mean **** when you only apply "accurate" science to mean "climate change". I plan on being on the waiting list for Tesla Model 3 here in the next 6 months or so, so it isn't about "ethical tech" as you call it as much is it is a war against the oil companies. Don't try and hide behind some use of "ethical tech".

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public schools, eradicating climate change, national monuments, our US constitution, human rights, sustainable farming practices, green clean energy, healthcare for all. Oh, and the list goes on...

Public schools are not going to improve until the local school districts start listening to the people who pay their salaries and stop being to the teachers unions, because it that institution which has done the most damage to our public school system. I'm not sure why for someone who claims to be "pro-choice" why you are against school choice.

Human rights? That's a pretty general comment, unless you mean LGBT rights. If that is the case, then I'm not sure what you are upset about, the SCOTUS pretty much ruled in favor of that whole situation and I think a vast majority of people even those in the right agree with their decision, I know I'm one of them. You conflate a minority on the right with the right in general.

Sustainable Farming. That one is interesting, as that is part of the point of the science of GMO's and there are a bunch of "pro-science" people who are against the very idea of science improving the output and stability of our grown foods.

Clean Green Energy. This should be read as anti-oil. When green energy can produce the energy we need I'll support it, until then let the science of green energy continue to be studied. I have nothing against green energy but I'm against the anti-oil groups.

Healthcare for all. I'm all for it but I'm not for a "medicare for all" or "single payer" system as I don't think it can be done with a nation the size of the US.

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Who said this:

Not Papa John, that's for sure. This is why it is so hard to take your extreme brand with any honesty. Like a majority of the pointless meme's you post, it is a lie and was never said by the man.
http://www.snopes.com/papa-johns-ceo-quote/

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Don't try and compare good apples with rotten worm infested ones.

I didn't compare them, I just stated that you are worried about the #9 and #10 guys but aren't concerned with the #1-8 guys, minus 1 because he is in Spain and not a US citizen, because you agree with their spoken politics and choice of tax write-offs. I would be more impressed if they put their money where their mouths were without the write-offs. This is why I'm all for lowering the tax rates for people as well as corp's but we eliminate the write-off's for the very wealthy, it will show you who really cares. I donate to a few places but I never claim the tax write-off, sure my donations don't really exceed anything more than a few hundred bucks a year compared to their maybe millions. I also don't see putting your own money into your own charity and then claiming the tax write-off as anything special either.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:40 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
I assume you only support the murder of "black" police officers... (cynical)

I don't support any sort of murder at all.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 03:45 pm
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
@andy31,
What makes you think I am a socialist or communist?
I asked you to back you your side of the argument and you return with complete drivel. You can't defend your side so you need to resort to insinuations and innuendo. There is a mental sickness in that sort of denial.
I am a capitalist who believes in "regulated" capitalism.
You vote for a traitor and call yourself a patriot?
You are nothing more than a shill for the fascist and racist GOP oligarchy.


Here is a post by you from Oct 2008, it came back up in my feed a couple of weeks ago, and it made sense why you changed your name.

"TheCobbler"...
https://able2know.org/topic/124286-1#post-3444831
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@RexRed,
Correction: signs not sings. Smile

You are all shocked to see the naked truth; yes naked liberal thought is an ugly place.

The problem with far left liberals is that they are aware of only one side of the coin…

These left wing nuts know how to exert and push their own selfish will on others but they are oblivious to the will of some intelligence and standard of living greater than their own.

This selfishness leads to a “nature”, a word liberals and even most conservatives have no clue of what it actually means.

A phrase like “human nature” people say it all the time but have no idea what “nature” means. Ahh nature is the scenery, trees and animas right? No, "nature" in this case means “an inner tendency to go a certain way”… See how little we KNOW about ourselves? But we know where the stock market closes daily.

Like the tendency for a liberal to go a certain way is their nature where the tendency for someone aware of a higher intelligence above themselves may choose to possibly go another way.

So we all are born with a nature to go our “own” way and only when we are born of the “new nature” we then reexamine each of our constituents of thought and propel them in a “new” way based upon the “new nature”.

THIS is only a fraction of the kind of thought that is obliterated by liberal and social thought bombarding our schools and universities without mercy.

I bet none of you reading this knew the real meaning of the word “nature” yet I have understood this word minutely for almost thirty years!

I know what "nature” means to such a degree that I can articulate its meaning to others.

Even further on "nature"…

There are two ways one's life can go, it can get "better and better" or it can get "worse and worse"... When it stays in the same place, this could still be considered, getting worse and worse.

(Worse and worse = corruption.) i.e. like corruption of ideas, corruption of freedoms, corruption of people’s votes, corruption cause by the lawless liberal elite, corruption of wealth, slanted media, godless men of wealth, degenerate song lyrics, mocumentaries, etc...

Or, our country heals and is getting “better and better” tolerance of ideas, consideration, giving out of love without measure instead of giving because it is dictated by Barack Obama and Harry Reid. “Giving out of a free heart” IS freedom...

Corruption represents the erosion of human rights, which is the right to follow the sprit over the letter of the law… Will we still have the right to choose not to bow down and worship Nancy Pelosi’s golden calf?

True liberalism can only be realizes in the spirit.

Yet the future world of the liberals will not reveal truth like this about our own unique “nature”, it will teach you that no one’s head shall stand above the rest and especially not to reproach their God/man messiah. We shall have no choice but to live our lives in absolute submission on our knees worshiping their idol man/God. Forget about “democracy” and your vote, the liberal elite have done all they can to see that what you think or believe no longer counts.

We can all become Joe the plumber like it or not. How dare people dream of hard work, prosperity and success while other are collecting welfare and sitting on their fat asses? (Cynical)
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 04:59 pm
@Baldimo,
I used to be a republican and I am ordained clergy who has become an agnostic.

I became a democrat because of rank racism in the republican party and I became an agnostic because as I studied the holy books and religions of the world in minute detail, surprise surprise, I found them to embody hate and barbarism.

I could not in good conscience remain in the republican party or religion.

I changed thanks to the democrats on this forum and in my life who cared enough for me to help me realize that religion was not the truth and republicans pedal only fake news.

I have nearly all of my life believed in evolution though religion has attempted to cloud that view from time to time.

As for racism, I have never ever been a racist. So leaving the republican party was a no brainer.

I changed when I found out I was in the wrong company... What is your excuse for supporting racists and their propaganda?
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 05:11 pm
@oralloy,
You have little to no credibility here. Your word and integrity are in question due to your double standard that you have demonstrated here time and again.

Your racist sliding scale is based on a lack of concern for those of color who are often under privileged and horribly victimized by white privilege.

This is why the statement "black lives matter" is such a cabal to you.

You are lying to appease your own guilt and the only one you are deceiving here is yourself.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2017 05:29 pm
Trump Says Russians Didn’t Help Him Win. His Intelligence Agencies Say Yes They Did.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-russia-help_us_59c97409e4b01cc57ff4cece?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000016&section=politics
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