50
   

Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
parados
 
  5  
Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 08:43 pm
@phinster,
Evidence of one person saying that with no corroborating evidence.

I have seen people say they were abducted by UFOs. Does that mean we should simply take their word for it? There was a woman that said she was raped by President Bush in a hotel in Texas so we should just take her word for that too?

I don't use and manipulate people. You however seem to be someone that is easy to use a manipulate if this is an example of your ability to think for yourself.
Below viewing threshold (view)
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 06:08 am
@Baldimo,
Point out any widespread voter fraud. Not vote rigging, not ballot box stuffing or theft. Oh yeah, and document it.
0 Replies
 
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 06:09 am
@phinster,
Ohhhhhhh so you personally know of it when nobody else does. Go ahead, present your evidence.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 06:19 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Don't hold your breath, sphincter is another braindead export from Oralboy's rich man's lickspittle forum. They believe any nonsense that reinforces their own bigotry, (note its comments on Moslems). They're not used to people who can actually think, and think they can just shout opposition down.

Don't expect it to hang around for long, once it gets tired of being made to look stupid it will crawl back into its hole and get back to whatever disgusting activity such creatures like doing.
0 Replies
 
parados
 
  3  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 07:08 am
@phinster,
If you believe something based simply on one person saying so without corroborating evidence then I would expect you to do so in all instances. To do otherwise would show you are merely selecting what to believe based on your own biases. In this case, you believe there is widespread fraud so one person claiming they did commit that fraud is evidence enough for you. However when asked for evidence of that fraud, you can only come up with this example. This is an example of circular reasoning, phinster.

0 Replies
 
bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 07:56 am
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2015/150514-poll-shocker-hillary-clinton-tied-with-rand-paul.jpg
0 Replies
 
TheCobbler
 
  3  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 08:37 am
https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10407569_827729257283009_5083687871944287089_n.jpg?oh=2bfc7a8e598ecc382b69b25135313f73&oe=55CEDEA1

I admit I have fallen for some of the propaganda against unions forgetting all the unions have done for middle class workers.

I thank whoever made this graphic for getting me back on track again.

I say let's get rid of the greedy GOP corporations who dodge taxes and criticize unions before we even think of dismantling unions which have a clear record of protecting laborers!
0 Replies
 
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 10:21 am
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2015/150515-jeb-bushs-health-plan-for-america.jpg
revelette2
 
  3  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 10:25 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I am beginning to suspect Jeb Bush may have something wrong with him, perhaps early Alzheimer's or some other unfortunate mental condition.
bobsal u1553115
 
  5  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 10:33 am
@revelette2,
He doesn't have enough handlers.

http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh573/TexasTowelie/11169974_709569619155321_4722872286669994357_n_zpsjwkv3ry3.jpg
0 Replies
 
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 10:35 am
Michigan GOP ‘Exercise In Reprioritization’ Fixes Roads By Raising Taxes Only On The Working Poor
Source: Raw Story

Michigan House Speaker Kevin Cotter (R) announced this week that Republicans had put together a plan for Michigan road funding by raising part of the money on the backs of the working poor.

“We have to determine what are the core functions of state government and let’s budget accordingly,” Cotter said at a press conference on Wednesday. “This plan is an exercise in reprioritization.”

--clip
But the most controversial part of the plan was the call to raise $117 million by eliminating the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), which provides a refundable tax credit for the working poor. In some cases, the credit can be greater than tax paid through withholding, providing the worker with a small amount of additional earnings.

While the EITC is one of the largest anti-poverty programs in the country, it is also opposed by many conservatives.

Read more: Link to source
0 Replies
 
TheCobbler
 
  6  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 01:34 pm
https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11057291_977011725666642_1388030824320150_n.jpg?oh=06676a0a7913323c327b37d4876dba0b&oe=55C51242
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 02:02 pm
@TheCobbler,
Baltimore school system spends on average of about $15k per student and the states population is about 5.9 million people. Here in CO we spend about $9k per student and we have 5.3 million people. Maryland median household income is $69k, here it's $57k. They are ranked as one of the better states in the union for schools, so why do they need so much more money? What does this say about the state of Maryland vs the state of CO?
parados
 
  3  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 03:34 pm
@Baldimo,
First of all it says you are comparing a city with a state. That would be cherry picking one school district then using that to compare 2 states. A big no-no when using statistics.
Baldimo
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 03:45 pm
@parados,
I might have said Baltimore School districts, but I meant the state. If you want to look at the cities then Baltimore vs Denver.

Baltimore is still spending $15k per student:
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-05-21/news/bs-md-ci-census-schools-20130521_1_school-system-per-pupil-spending-districts

Denver DPS is spending about $7k per student:
http://co.chalkbeat.org/2012/04/09/find-your-districts-new-budget-numbers-3/#.VVZnUflVhBc

Cherry Creek, which is one of the wealthiest area's in Denver metro spends about $6.3K per student.

Why is Baltimore spending on average twice what Denver does and has less of a population in the city? Baltimore has about 622,000 people and Denver has 663,000 people.
0 Replies
 
RABEL222
 
  2  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 10:16 pm
@revelette2,
He just sounds like the average conservative to me.
TheCobbler
 
  2  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 10:26 pm
@RABEL222,
average and conservative = oxymoron Smile
0 Replies
 
FBM
 
  3  
Reply Fri 15 May, 2015 10:36 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:

https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11057291_977011725666642_1388030824320150_n.jpg?oh=06676a0a7913323c327b37d4876dba0b&oe=55C51242


Please tell me this isn't true. Sad
0 Replies
 
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 07:01 am
Wow, Jeb Bush Is Awful

MAY 14, 2015


This story is included with an NYT Opinion subscription.
Learn more »

Let’s discuss Jeb Bush’s terrible week.

I’m really troubled by his awful performances, and I’m generally a person who takes bad news about politicians pretty well. For instance, a friend just sent me a story about the Texas agriculture commissioner’s vow to bring deep-fried foods back to school cafeterias. (“It’s not about French fries; it’s about freedom.”) I would classify this as interesting, yet somehow not a shocking surprise.

But today we’re talking about Jeb Bush. As a presidential hopeful, Bush’s most attractive feature was an aura of competence. Extremely boring competence, perhaps. Still, an apparent ability to get through the day without demonstrating truly scary ineptitude.

Then, about a week ago, The Washington Post reported that during a private meeting with rich Manhattan financiers, Bush announced that his most influential adviser on Middle Eastern matters was his brother George.
Gail Collins
American politics and culture.

Let George Do It
MAY 15
The Alamo and Walmart
MAY 8
Beyond the Demon Sheep
MAY 7
Bernie Sanders Yells His Mind
MAY 1
When Good News Is No News
APR 29

See More »

This was a surprise on many fronts. For one thing, Jeb had apparently missed the memo on how everything you say to potential donors at private meetings can wind up on an endless YouTube loop for all eternity.

Also, he had begun his all-but-announced campaign for the presidency with an “I’m my own man” sales pitch. Now he was saying, in effect, “Well, I can always ask my brother.”

Then, on Monday, Fox News aired an interview in which host Megyn Kelly asked Jeb whether “knowing what we know now” he would have authorized the invasion of Iraq.

“I would have, and so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody,” Bush replied.

Now no one, including Hillary Clinton’s worst enemy in the entire world, thinks that if she could go back in time to 2002, knowing that the invasion of Iraq was going to be a total disaster and that she would lose the presidential nomination in 2008 to a guy who ran on that very issue, she would still have voted to authorize the use of force. So, obviously, Bush misheard the question, right?

Apparently not. He then went on: “I mean, so just for the news flash to the world if they’re trying to find places where there’s big space between me and my brother, this might not be one of those.”

We had now learned that: 1) Jeb Bush still thinks invading Iraq was a good idea; and 2) he has inherited more of the family syntax issues than we knew.

Fast-forward one day: “I interpreted the question wrong, I guess,” Bush told Sean Hannity in a radio interview. “I was talking about given what people knew then, would you have done it, rather than knowing what we know now. And knowing what we know now, you know, clearly there were mistakes.”

He still didn’t claim that he’d have done anything different than his brother had done. (“That’s a hypothetical.”) But he was really nailing down that business about mistakes.

Then Bush was off to Nevada, campaigning in his own special way. (“I’m running for president in 2016, and the focus is going to be about how we, if I run, how do you create high sustained economic growth.”)

Advertisement
Continue reading the main story

Advertisement
Continue reading the main story

Advertisement
Continue reading the main story

He also announced that hypothetical questions were a “disservice” to the U.S. troops and their families.
Continue reading the main story
Recent Comments
Ralph Sorbris Yesterday

Yesterday however Rand Paul gave a very good analysis of the current Middle East situation and to what extent we should involve ourselves in...
Chris Finnie Yesterday

Maybe this is really why Barbara Bush didn't want Jeb to run. She knew he'd embarrass the family. That is admittedly a high bar. But he...
Ronn Yesterday

Good grief. Bush, the alleged one with brains, has sorely disappointed me - and clearly many others. The one Republican that sort of...

See All Comments

What is going on here? It’s not actually about foreign policy. Jeb Bush clearly knows nothing whatsoever about foreign policy, but then neither do the majority of other Republican presidential hopefuls.

The bottom line is that so far he seems to be a terrible candidate. He couldn’t keep his “I’m-my-own-man” mantra going through the spring. He over-babbled at a private gathering. He didn’t know how to answer the Iraq question, which should have been the first thing he tackled on the first day he ever considered that he might someday think for even a minute about running for president.

This is obviously a problem for the Bush camp, but it’s a big one for the nation’s army of concerned citizens, too. There are lots of Americans who are not going to vote Republican next year, but who nevertheless have found some comfort in the idea that Jeb Bush would almost certainly be the Republican nominee.

They might disagree with him on a lot of issues, but at least he wasn’t Ted Cruz. “I’m a fan of Jeb Bush,” Cruz said cruelly, when asked about the Iraq incident. “I’ll give him credit for candor and consistency.”

If the version of Jeb Bush we’ve been seeing lately is the one we’re going to be stuck with, then one of the other Republican contenders is going to win. Maybe the guy who thinks Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery. Or the guy who once linked vaccines to children with mental disorders. The guy who used to peddle a “Diabetes Solution Kit.” The guy with the bridge traffic jam!

Right now, you know, it’s all hypothetical.
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
TEA PARTY TO AMERICA: NOW WHAT?! - Discussion by farmerman
 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.13 seconds on 04/25/2024 at 11:28:20