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Who Is Behind QAnon? Linguistic Detectives Find Fingerprints

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/19/technology/qanon-messages-authors.html

QAnon is an evil enterprise masquerading to be good, they are worse than pedophile priests. Spreading lies and slander to make money and gain political power. Satan is called "the great accuser" because, blaming others of their own evil is a lucrative strategy.

I personally am against pedophilia and QAnon is the the last place I would go to fight it. This is why we have courts and law enforcement.

Like going to the republicans to promote pro-life policies? They only care about the money and power not actually about saving lives.

They vote against healthcare, don't wear masks during a pandemic and abandon the social net for poor families and the disabled struggling to make ends meet.

There is nothing pro-life about the republican party and Qanon is merely a smear campaign designed to shift the blame from their own guilty conscience.

It is the republican party and Trump who are guilty of drugging and paying for underage prostitutes.... Let's first get that straight.

The rest is all hyperbole and racism with no moral culpability.

GOP leaders condemn Greene and Gosar for associating with White nationalist event
(cnn)

Trump violated federal laws in bid to overturn election, Capitol attack panel claims https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/02/january-6-commitee-challenge-trump-lawyer

Your article is hiding behind a paywall, hinge.

Care to share some content with us?

Haven't heard much at all about Q for ages now.

What's your personal interest in them?

It let me read it and I'm not a subscriber. Sorry can't help you.

That said you can google 'who is behind qanon' and look for a paper you trust and/or have access to. e.g. the Independent have a story covering the AI Linguistics computer work analysing the posts (but you have to register but no cost)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/qanon-founder-who-forensic-linguists-q-b2019432.html

It would appear that I've reached my limit of free views on that particular site.

"Q" hasn't done much at all lately. I'm a little amused that "he" or it is still arousing so much interest on these forums, considering the fact that nothing much is happening with the situation elsewhere.

That's a classic blow-off, considering the fact that you're here, attempting to discredit a source, while recommending google for information.

You're either able to follow up on your own information, or you're unable to follow up. There's no middle ground, there.

I'm having this same "issue" with other members of this dwindling forum a lot, lately. Dog-piling is easy, when you're just running in a pack-mentality.

In fact, the self-appointed watchdogs here are repeatedly caught in the act, themselves, but are too smugly narcissistic to even see what they're doing, is exactly what they're saying they're against.

Sad, really. Used to be a handy site for sharing decent information.

All we appear to have now, here, is partisan pap.

And you're joining in on the decline, for whatever personal reasons you might carry. Hope you've ridden out the "rain bomb" events. Cheers hinge.

I have been on various forums in the past and there is a common thread throughout... namely, a lot of name-calling and vitriol.
I can't say I am totally innocent, but in any case, I just think that the OP is typical of a lot of leftist comments in that: it states something that is not supported by many, if any, facts, and then hurls an accusation at a whole group of people on the opposition... and expects everyone to just nod Yes in acquiescence. I have been closely following the R v D controversies for YEARS (going on decades) and Rs are FAR more honest and forthcoming. After all, the Rs are the party of LIFE, the Ds are the party of DEATH and licentiousness...

What more does any voter need to know?

a story on "Senate changes rules" becomes

OMG OMG! The Republicans have destroyed Democracy!

They always seem to be doing that, don't they?

Meanwhile, the Dims keep using the same strategy, hoping few will notice: accusing others of the very same thing they are doing.. I guess they think this distracts people from... what they are doing.

please. Some of us have an IQ above room temp

Here you go again: accusing a whole group for what a handful are doing. Some Rs are not even Rs... I could call myself a millionaire but my bank account balance would quickly disabuse anyone of that lie... There are a lot of RINOs in Congress and everywhere else. They are basically Dim-Lite..

But anyhow... getting very tired of the same old playbook dims use: accuse, accuse, accuse, hoping something will stick. Ridicule the opposition into total submission...

But Americans are not stupid... some are, but some of us realize we are being brainwashed by the corrupt (fake news) media.

You make no sense - first you say you don't care about QAnon it's past its time and then you think I'm blowing you off because I won't cut and paste stuff that easy to find?

OK, here's a nice open link for you, from the Daily Mail, who routinely make up stuff or just plagiarise other news outlets - I'm going to put this in the second category.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10531793/Forensic-linguists-say-know-origin-Q-texts-began-QAnon-movement.html

I used to respect your opinion but you have really bought into the bullshit and now everyone's your enemy. Have a nice life.

And in case following links is fecking conspiracy here's the fecking text

Forensic linguists say they now know the origin of the Q texts on the message board that began the QAnon movement
Linguists with the firm OrphAnalytics and École des Chartes both concluded that Paul Furber and Ron Watkins launched the movement
Furber, 55, a tech journalist from South Africa, did not deny the claim
Watkins, 34, who is running for Congress in Arizona, defended the movement but denied that he was Q
Furber and Watkins reportedly worked together until December 2017 and then Watkins took over
QAnon followers believe that high-powered Democrats run an international child sex ring out of a pizza shop
Many rioters on the Capitol on January 6 believed in the QAnon movement and thought that the 2020 election was stolen
By JANON FISHER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 16:16 AEDT, 20 February 2022 | UPDATED: 19:46 AEDT, 20 February 2022

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One of the enduring mysteries of the Trump era - 'who is Q' - appears to be solved, sort of.

Two sets of forensic linguists have published two separate papers using two different techniques to conclude that Q appears to be two people: South African tech journalist Paul Furber, 55, and 4chan internet message board moderator and computer entrepreneur Ron Watkins, 34, according to the studies.

'While relying on two completely different technologies, both stylometric [quantitative study of literary style] analyses could establish that QAnon's early period on the 4chan forum, from October to December 2017, was likely the result of a collaboration between Paul Furber and Ron Watkins,' according to Claude-Alain Roten, the CEO of OrphAnalytics.


Roten, who worked with Lionel Pousaz, a partner at OrphAnalytics, took the writings of several people identified as potential Q originators and analyzed writings they had authored then cross-referenced it using computer software with early QAnon posts.

'Open your eyes. Many in our govt worship Satan,' was the first post on October 2017 that launched the movement, according to The New York Times, which was given exclusive access to the linguistics studies.

When reached by the Times, Furber didn't dispute that Q's writing resembled his own, while Watkins, who is running for Congress in Arizona, told the NYT: 'I am not Q.'

This debunks one theory that Q is a high-ranking military insider.

Ron Watkins, 35, who is running for Congress in Arizona, defended the messaging of the movement as mostly good but denied being Q
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Ron Watkins, 35, who is running for Congress in Arizona, defended the messaging of the movement as mostly good but denied being Q

South African tech journalist Paul Furber, 55, was identified as one of the earlier advocates of QAnon
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South African tech journalist Paul Furber, 55, was identified as one of the earlier advocates of QAnon

Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar met with Arizona congressional hopeful Ron Watkins, who was identified as one of the original authors of the QAnon movement, which he has denied
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Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar met with Arizona congressional hopeful Ron Watkins, who was identified as one of the original authors of the QAnon movement, which he has denied

'An accidental stylistic resemblance between Watkins and a still-to-be identified author seems quite unlikely,' said Florian Cafiero, a visiting scholar at Columbia University who co-authored the study with Jean-Baptiste Camps from the French École des Chartes.

QAnon started out as a fringe group on the obscure and extremely nerdy 4chan internet forum but grew into a global movement that propagated wild conspiracy, like that there was an international child sex ring run by Democrats operating out of a Washington, D.C., pizza shop called Comet Pizza.

Followers of QAnon believed that then-President Donald Trump was a supporter and many of the movement's devotees participated in the January 6 attack on the Capitol based on the debunked belief that the 2020 election was stolen due to widespread computer fraud.

The FBI labeled the movement a terror threat.

A poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute found that 15 percent of all Americans believe the basic tenets of QAnon.

QAnon followers believed that an international child sex ring was run out of this DC pizza shop
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QAnon followers believed that an international child sex ring was run out of this DC pizza shop

Jacob Anthony Chansley, who also goes by the name Jake Angeli, a QAnon believer known as the 'QAnon Shaman,' speaks to a crowd of Trump supporters in November 2020
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Jacob Anthony Chansley, who also goes by the name Jake Angeli, a QAnon believer known as the 'QAnon Shaman,' speaks to a crowd of Trump supporters in November 2020

Devotees of QAnon believed that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump through widespread voter fraud. That theory has been debunked. Pictured: A Q follower in May 2020
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Devotees of QAnon believed that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump through widespread voter fraud. That theory has been debunked. Pictured: A Q follower in May 2020

Furber didn't dispute that Qu's writing resembled his own
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Furber didn't dispute that Qu's writing resembled his own

Roten and Pousaz concluded that Furber and Watkins worked together initially, but when the message board migrated to 8chan, Watkins took over. Watkins' father reportedly owned the 8chan message board.

Furber told The New York Times that his writing may bare a resemblance to Q because he was so heavily influenced by the moderator's style.

In a telephone interview with The Times from his home near Johannesburg, Furber didn't dispute that Q's writing resembled his own. Instead, he claimed that Q's posts had influenced him so deeply that they altered his prose.

It 'took over our lives, literally,' Furber told the paper. 'We all started talking like him.'

More bluntly, Watkins told The Times: 'I am not Q.' But he defended the messages behind the movement.

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'There is probably more good stuff than bad,' he told The Times, enumerating the valuable messages like 'fighting for the safety of the country, and for the safety of the children of the country.'

Watkins has been outed before. In March 2021, HBO launched a docuseries called 'Q: Into the Storm' which traces the origins of QAnon to Watkins, whose father owns the 8chan forum.

Pousaz defended his unmasking of the QAnon founders as important social science.

'QAnon is going to fuel social studies for a long time, and maybe even history, as one of the most singular and concerning movements of our time. As such, identifying its authors and their motivations is of great importance to orient future debates,' says Pousaz, a co-inventor at OrphAnalytics.

Roten and Pousaz concluded that Furber and Watkins (pictured) worked together initially, but when the message board migrated to 8chan, Watkins took over
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Roten and Pousaz concluded that Furber and Watkins (pictured) worked together initially, but when the message board migrated to 8chan, Watkins took over

'There is probably more good stuff than bad,' Watkins told The Times, enumerating the valuable messages like 'fighting for the safety of the country, and for the safety of the children of the country.'
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'There is probably more good stuff than bad,' Watkins told The Times, enumerating the valuable messages like 'fighting for the safety of the country, and for the safety of the children of the country.'

QAnon followers recently flocked to Dallas in November under the impression that JFK Jr. - who died in a plane crash in 1999 - was going to 'appear' and announce a vice presidential run with Donald Trump. They later refused to leave, calling the Texas city their 'promised land.'

QAnon rapper Pryme Minister reportedly offered property for the conspiracy theorists to set up a permanent headquarters near the infamous grassy knoll at Dealey Plaza - the site of the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Vice News first reported.

The group expected JFK Jr. to appear at 12.29 p.m. on November 2 - the time his father was shot dead - but when he failed to arrive, followers dashed off to the Rolling Stones concert at the Cotton Bowl instead.

Michael Brian Protzman, on the group's leaders known to his followers as Negative48, helped organize the gatherings and told his 105,000 Telegram followers that QAnon rapper Pryme Minister, whose real name is Randell Moody, has offered the use of a property in the city that could act as a permanent headquarters for the group, according to Vice News.

In an audio chat on a Telegram channel called Occupy Dealey Plaza, someone asks Protzman how long the group was going to stay in Dallas, to which he reveals that they seek to maintain a base in there because it is 'the promised land.'

Although there is no official leader of QAnon, Protzman has create his own cult-like group within the movement that recognizes him as a godlike figure, Vice News reported.

He uses his devoted following on Telegram to spread his own conspiracy theories and lore JFK Jr. is the Archangel Michael and Donald Trump is the Holy Spirit.

Protzman makes predictions and touts theories based on his own interpretation of gematria, the ancient Jewish numerology code that assigns a numerical value to letters, words and phrases and translates them to create a new meaning.

The group's leader Brian Protzman (pictured above) maintains that JFK Jr. did, in fact, appear to them that night in the form of Keith Richards during a Rolling Stones concert
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The group's leader Brian Protzman (pictured above) maintains that JFK Jr. did, in fact, appear to them that night in the form of Keith Richards during a Rolling Stones concert

QAnon rapper Pryme Minister has reportedly offered property for the group to set up a new headquarters in Dallas and called it the QAnon 'promised land'
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QAnon rapper Pryme Minister has reportedly offered property for the group to set up a new headquarters in Dallas and called it the QAnon 'promised land'


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Pictures posted to social media by Steven Monacelli, the publisher of Protean magazine, show QAnon followers congregated on the infamous grassy knoll. At one point, the group stands in the shape of a giant ‘Q'

A popular QAnon theory claims that he faked his death
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A popular QAnon theory claims that he faked his death

JFK Jr. died in a plane crash off the coast of Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts in 1999, along with his wife, Carolyn Bessette and her sister, Lauren.

Navy divers found their bodies still strapped into their seats in the wreckage 18 hours after his plane, which he was piloting, disappeared.

In 2019, Forbes reports, some believers expected JFK Jr. to return on July 4, again as Trump's running mate.

The conspiracy theorists now reportedly believe JFK Jr., the son of former President John F. Kennedy and Jackie Kennedy Onassis, will reveal he switched political affiliations and faked his own death to avoid retribution, according to Gizmodo.

According to the theory, he would announce that he was running with former President Donald J. Trump in the 2024 presidential election, but Trump would step down and let JFK Jr. step in as president and appoint former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn as his vice president.

Trump would then 'most likely' become the king of kings, a popular QAnon Telegram account with more than 100,000 subscribers wrote about the conspiracy in a post on Monday. It did not specify what becoming the 'king of kings' would entail.

They also believed that after JFK Jr. would appear, the clocks would go back an hour, people would adopt the Julian calendar, and the date would go back to October 20, according to Newsweek.

JFK Jr., the theory posits, will then help usher in a new age American prosperity, as his father did in the 1960s.

Protzman also offered the theory that JFK, JFK Jr. and Jackie Kennedy would all reappear, after which JFK would tour the world for seven days, transfer the presidency back to Trump and die, Gizmodo reports, even though that is not how presidential power works.

It is unclear why the QAnon followers thought JFK Jr. would appear at the location where his father was famously murdered in 1963.

That's all we really need to know, about this "theory", hinge.

And "corroboration" of correlation is still correlation, which, despite the real need for people to want understanding, isn't evidence of anything.

For the record, I've never even demonstrated an interest in "Q", and despite what pundits here have claimed, I also consider UK fanatics like Icke to be comedic satire, much like I consider George Carlin to be purely satirical, if somewhat accurate in his assessments of our "reality". Vis-a-vis; "It's a big club, and we ain't in it....."

Which is a compilation of ..........(drum roll)..........(wait for it)......... conspiracy theories, largely based on premise, and suppositions.

I've paraphrased the content, to save the readers time (it's raining again here (will it stop?) )

"according to the studies" (not evidence-based)

"analyses could establish" (but offered no proof)

"reportedly worked together" (but not established)

" identified as potential Q originators" (by the theorists themselves)

"debunks one theory that Q is a high-ranking military insider" ( I see nothing that debunks anything in those assumptions)

"FBI labeled the movement a terror threat" (The "no-fly list" mistakenly did the same thing)

"A poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute " (undisclosed target audience, and undisclosed demographics and numbers)

"Furber told the paper. 'We all started talking like him.'" (hearsay from one of the "suspects" this article decided was Q)

Seriously, there's not a line of verifiable evidence-based content in the whole article, and I'm seriously concerned that you've posted this as some kind of evidence for a theory you're espousing, hinge.

Having written many an essay for the education system, this article would rate a fail mark, at best.

Get with the program, hinge, and it's clear why you didn't reference the article itself, but posted a link only, hidden behind a paywall.

Some of us do. You obviously do not.

If you had an IQ, you would hurt yourself...

Repugs, gerrymander, block mail-in voters, put polling stations halfway across a state so black people and minorities have to travel long distances and wait in line all day to vote, they purge valid voters from state voting rolls, while claiming voter fraud by their opponents. They send intimidating robocalls to black voters.

Why? Because the repug policy is crap!

Repug, hateful, fake religious, dirty energy, tax the poor and take away their healthcare garbage.

White nationalist, racist seditionists who scare their own illiterate people into voting for them because educated people see right through their Repugnant shenanigans.

And you think democrats are alarmists?

We are responding to traitors, racists, seditionists and ecological polluters who have been paid to look the other way while egregious crimes are committed. Like we need the pedophile republicans and their "Qanon"... We have law enforcement and courts for your party, just ask Trump how republican criminals are doing getting away with fraud?

You are not fooling anyone with an IQ...

This is what makes your IQ as feeble as your crooked Repugnant party.
I lump all repugs into the same crazy basket because they had a chance long ago to leave the repug party when it took a sharp downward turn and if they are still there they are all dumber than a rock.

That includes you, you are too dumb to even get out of your own way.

Don't expect us dems to politely step aside while you destroy our democracy with your crooked political treachery.

enjoy SNL