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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2021 06:09 am
@oralloy,
Oh, ok.

So you're using A2k's personal opinions as proof as "progressives lie." Interesting, we've been telling YOU the same thing for years. Opinions are neither right nor wrong, since you're just as guilty about that as anyone else.

Fox and Twitter? Comical, even for you.

I'm not even sure you read the article from Technology Review. If you had, you'd notice safety and effective medicine were top priority rather than pushing from Trump to release something that doesn't work. So, again, your fallacy about "progressives" are in fact, just an opinion.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2021 06:25 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
The Democrats disrupted the government with a frivolous impeachment for the entire first month of the pandemic when the government should have been focused on protecting the American people


Clearly, the impeachment trial didn't prevent the Trump administration from enacting the China travel ban, as that was implemented before the trial ended.

Quote:
Joe Biden opposed Mr. Trump's efforts to block travel from China before the virus could reach us


Biden actually supported Trump's travel ban. Both of your links, from The Trump White House and Biden's Twitter account, don't say anything about Biden opposing the ban as you claimed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html

Quote:
You are too stupid to speak for me. I would much prefer it if you did not attempt to do so.


Even this is a canned response.
hightor
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2021 07:12 am
@Rebelofnj,
Quote:
Even this is a canned response.


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmemesbams.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F01%2F5-Laughing-Face-Gif.gif&f=1&nofb=1
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2021 07:20 am
@hightor,
Dishonorable progressives supporting other dishonorable progressives... what a surprise.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2021 07:21 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
So you're using A2k's personal opinions as proof as "progressives lie."

Untrue claims are not opinions. They are merely untrue claims.


neptuneblue wrote:
Interesting, we've been telling YOU the same thing for years. Opinions are neither right nor wrong,

Actually it's the reverse. I keep telling progressives that opinions are neither right nor wrong.


neptuneblue wrote:
since you're just as guilty about that as anyone else.

There is nothing wrong with having opinions.


neptuneblue wrote:
Fox and Twitter? Comical, even for you.

Twitter comments directly from politicians are completely reliable evidence of what those politicians say.

Twitter comments directly from reputable news outlets are completely reliable evidence of whatever is being reported in the tweet.

Fox News is completely reliable as well. Progressives just dislike sources that tell the truth.


neptuneblue wrote:
I'm not even sure you read the article from Technology Review. If you had, you'd notice safety and effective medicine were top priority rather than pushing from Trump to release something that doesn't work.

The vaccine does work. How many Americans died because the vaccine was prevented from coming out before the election?


neptuneblue wrote:
So, again, your fallacy about "progressives" are in fact, just an opinion.

That is incorrect. Reality is neither a fallacy nor an opinion.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2021 07:23 am
@Rebelofnj,
Rebelofnj wrote:
Clearly, the impeachment trial didn't prevent the Trump administration from enacting the China travel ban, as that was implemented before the trial ended.

That hardly justifies disrupting the government during a crisis.


Rebelofnj wrote:
Biden actually supported Trump's travel ban.

Months later, after he realized how bad it looked that he opposed it.


Rebelofnj wrote:
Both of your links, from The Trump White House and Biden's Twitter account, don't say anything about Biden opposing the ban as you claimed.

This hardly sounds like support:

"We need to lead the way with science -- not Donald Trump's record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency."



Kate Bedingfeld was lying when she said that Traitor Joe's xenophobia comments were not about the travel ban. The travel ban is exactly what they were about.


Rebelofnj wrote:
Even this is a canned response.

No it isn't.
hightor
 
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Reply Tue 12 Oct, 2021 07:50 am
@oralloy,
somebody wrote:
That hardly justifies disrupting the government during a crisis.


Trump hardly considered it a "crisis". Here's what he said on Feb 10, 2020:

Quote:
“I think the virus is going to be—it’s going to be fine."

“Looks like by April, you know in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away.”


Definitely in "crisis" mode"!

Rebelofnj wrote, " Even this is a canned response."

somebody wrote:
No it isn't.


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fr%2Flol1.gif&f=1&nofb=1





TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 13 Oct, 2021 02:07 pm
Executive privilege belongs to the people not the president.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 13 Oct, 2021 10:22 pm
Republicans eyeing upcoming votes stack local elections boards with Trump loyalists
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/republicans-eyeing-upcoming-votes-stack-local-elections-boards-with-trump-loyalists-123408453715
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 14 Oct, 2021 06:22 pm
Local Democrats Are Teaming Up To Battle Election Subversion
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/local-state-democrats-election-subversion_n_61684de9e4b0fcd00f9b4457
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 11:53 am
@hightor,
On Jan. 21, Anthony Fauci said in an interview that “this is not a major threat for the people of the United States, and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 05:29 pm
@hightor,
a traitor wrote:
somebody wrote:

Two can play this game.


a traitor wrote:
Trump hardly considered it a "crisis".

That is incorrect. He considered it a crisis.

But if he hadn't, he would merely be wrong. It was a crisis no matter what he thought of it.

And it remains wrong for the Democrats to disrupt the government during a crisis.


a traitor wrote:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fr%2Flol1.gif&f=1&nofb=1

Since you are a traitor, it comes as no surprise that you support other traitors.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 11:25 pm
Only two term presidents get the honorary distinction of "former" president.

I'll stick with ex-president... Canned and rejected by the all wise and supremely informed electorate.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 11:27 pm
@oralloy,
A traitor to the republican agenda is a hero in my book...
BillW
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 11:44 pm
@Brandon9000,
Quote:

By Warren Fiske, PolitiFact.com

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on April 29, 2020

Former White House advisor Steve Bannon has been defending President Donald Trump against criticism that he was slow responding to the coronavirus.

Bannon recently lauded Trump’s Jan. 31 order restricting travel with China, the original source of the virus. Bannon said the action came while a key medical adviser - Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases - was saying COVID-19 was not a threat to the United States.

“Fauci told us there’s nothing to worry about. That’s his quote, ‘There’s nothing to worry about,’” Bannon said during an April 14 radio interview on The John Fredericks Show, a conservative broadcast based in Portsmouth, Va.

We fact-checked Bannon’s claim. Bannon, a Virginia. native, cited two instances in late January when Fauci said the disease wasn’t a big threat to Americans. Each time, however, Fauci added that the situation could change.

Newsmax interview

On Jan. 21 - the day the first COVID-19 case in the U.S. was confirmed - Fauci appeared on conservative Newsmax TV. “Bottom line, we don’t have to worry about this one, right?” asked Greg Kelly, the host.

Fauci said, “Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.”

So Fauci, in a qualified response said, don’t worry “right now;” “you need to take it seriously;” and although “this is not a major threat,” keep an ear open to the CDC and Homeland Security.

Catsimatidis interview

On Jan. 26, Fauci gave an interview to John Catsimatidis, a syndicated radio host in New York. “What can you tell the American people about what’s been going on?” Catsimatidis asked. “Should they be scared?”

“I don’t think so,” Fauci said. “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States, but it’s something we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously.”

Fauci reiterated that COVID-19 “isn’t something the American people need to worry about or be frightened about” because, at the time, it was centered in China and the U.S. could screen travelers from that nation.

But Fauci also twice described the virus as “an evolving situation,” and said, “Every day, we have to look at it very carefully.”

Jurisprudence

On April 13, PolitiFact examined a tweet by Republican DeAnna Lorraine, an unsuccessful California congressional candidate. She said Fauci “was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and (COVID-19) posed no threat to the US public at large.”

Lorraine’s statement was ruled Mostly False. Although Fauci said that day he saw no immediate need for social distancing, PolitiFact noted that his comments were “filled with caveats that the situation could change.” And contrary to Lorraine’s tweet, Fauci’s didn’t say then “there was nothing to worry about.”

Bannon’s remark is based on different Fauci statements from an earlier time with different wwords and different context.

Our ruling

Bannon said, “Fauci told us there’s nothing to worry about. That’s his quote, ‘There’s nothing to worry about.’”

Fauci did say twice in late January, when there was one reported COVID-19 case in the U.S., that American shouldn’t worry about the virus. But Bannon omits an important detail: Both times, Fauci sadded that the situation could change.

So we rate Bannon’s statement Half True.


Brandon - you are rated " Liar, Liar - Pants on fire!
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 12:06 am
@BillW,
The Bible actually says, "There is no God.".

Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Authoritative words taken out of context can support any outlandish claim. Trump wanted another term and downplaying the danger suited his interest no matter the cost to human life. He never cared about the CDC or what doctors said.

It seems that many wise men and women rightly reject the Gods proposed by a lot of crazy religions...

Rejecting Trump is also a wise move.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 02:10 am
Pro-Trump Republican escorted from school board meeting after pulling anti-trans, anti-mask stunt
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/10/13/2057820/-Pro-Trump-Republican-escorted-from-school-board-meeting-after-pulling-anti-trans-anti-mask-stunt

But, but, but because Fauci said the virus posed no "current" danger in the beginning.

What is their excuse now?

Arguing about who was more prepared at first when the republican "conservatives" are still fighting every safety measure "now" is moot...

We full well know "now" the danger the virus poses after so many deaths so what really is their excuse "now"? Arguing about the past is a smokescreen to divert attention from present abhorrent behavior.

It can't be the vaccine is dangerous.. there is zero proof of that.

The disease is millions of times more dangerous than the vaccine.

Putting a mask over your mouth and nose is a violation of your rights? But infecting another person with a deadly virus is also your right? Something in that does not add up? But pretending you have a high IQ when you can't add is the way republicans figure things. And, they think others can't add votes... (cynical)

1+1=2 is a conspiracy theory.
Addition is a mystery to them...
BillW
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 02:31 am
Small correction cob:

Quote:
But infecting another person with a deadly virus is also your right?

But, infecting me with a deadly virus is also my right and far overrides your right to not wear a mask or get a vaccine!

BTW, I do know this is what you are saying in effect.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 07:00 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Only two term presidents get the honorary distinction of "former" president.

So Mr. Carter (and Mr. Biden, once Mr. Trump boots him out of office in 2024) are worthy of no recognition.

In addition to extending them no recognition, I'm in favor of impeaching both Jimmy Carter and Joe Biden. But let's impeach Barack Obama first.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 07:01 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
A traitor to the republican agenda is a hero in my book...

All traitors are heroes to progressives.

Support for treason comes naturally to progressives. Treason is part of their demented ideology.
 

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