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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 11:47 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
I am not a progressive democrat so stuff it.

That's interesting. Which political party do you align with?
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 11:48 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
These latest rocket attacks are getting more attention than the previous ones because they're being tied in with the unrest in the West Bank caused by the Zionists' restrictions on Palestinians visiting the Haram esh-Sharif during the month of Ramadan, which began around mid-April, and culminated with protests against the Zionists' continued efforts to ethnically cleans East Jerusalem with the eviction of Palestinian families and the arrogation of their homes to be handed over to Jewish families.

Non-Jewish Palestinians have no business visiting Jewish holy sites in the first place.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 11:49 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
the persecution of the indigenous population has been a constant.

Learn some history. The Israelis are part of the indigenous population.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 11:53 am
@oralloy,
Uh-huh.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 11:58 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
And as for countries attacking their neighbor what about what Putin has done to Ukraine? Do you really think Putin has any moral ground to tell Israel how to treat their neighbor? No he does not and what about Crimea and Georgia?

I feel bad for Georgia and Ukraine, but NATO started that with their mistreatment of the Serbs. Remember Kosovo?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:00 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
I am not going to hate on either side. Both sides have blood on their hands and they both need to learn to live together peacefully.

It's hard to see how Israel has blood on their hands. They merely defend themselves from an aggressor who refuses to make peace with them.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:01 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Iran had a democratic government overthrown by an MI5/CIA coup which installed the brutal dictatorship of the Shah.

Actually the coup was perpetrated primarily by the same clerics who rule Iran today.

It is true that MI6 (not MI5) gave backing to the clerics' coup. However, the UK had a legitimate complaint: Iran was stealing the UK's oil.

The CIA only got involved once it was clear that the clerics' coup was going to happen with or without them.


izzythepush wrote:
Iran had nothing to do with 9/11, that was carried out by citizens of America’s allies, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

Actually it was carried out by Usama Ibn Ladn and al-Qa'ida.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:04 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
The thing is, when Trump got elected we democrats did the same thing, we called the election illegitimate and we still believe that it was.

And now the American people get to do the same thing and call Mr. Biden's election illegitimate.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:06 pm
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:
Far-left liberal nutters only know how to swiftboat Trump and toady to BLM's supporters with gusto. Yet they quail at talking about the fact that we have lots of black criminals shooting people outside, including little girls.
Yikes!

The left's dreams of allowing black people to rape and murder white people are not going to come to pass.

Out here in the countryside if anyone is forced to defend themselves to save their lives, safe practice of the three S's will protect them from the progressive lynch mob.

I'm not sure what people in cities will do to survive, but they'll do something. I'll not be surprised to hear that people start forming teams of vigilantes to quietly eliminate suspected troublemakers that the police are afraid to deal with.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:18 pm
@izzythepush,
When you attack Jews you put yourself in the same camp as Hitler and Oralloy.
Do you really want that?
Oralloy does not care about Jews, he is a Nazi.

By pointing out that Putin is using the Palestinians does not mean I am against the Palestinians, it means I am simply pointing out that he is using them for political gain. Just because Putin is using the Palestinians does not mean he supports them.

This political gain is hurting the Palestinians and the peace process.

The country of Syria is a mess after Putin used them for political gain too.

Your insinuations about me show how daft you really are. You mention Oralloy... look in the mirror.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:19 pm
@oralloy,
Your racist airs lower you, they do not elevate you.

TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:27 pm
@oralloy,
I am a moderate democrat. I believe in progressive ideas but I believe it will take time to implement these ideas.

I am neither a socialist nor a capitalist but instead I believe in a blend of the two. Fair enterprise, regulated capitalism and equal taxation on income.

I am definitely not a republican in and way, shape or form... Not even a tiny bit.

And I loath dictators (Putins) and tyrants (Trumps) and I wholly support the US Constitution of We the People.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:36 pm
@TheCobbler,
I have attacked the persecution of the Palestinians.

I don’t think being Jewish means the State Of Israel does not have to respect human rights.

You seem to think the opposite.

Is that why you are similarly sanguine about the treatment of your own indigenous population, and the Vietnamese genocide?

This is what happens when you post drunk, you end up talking nonsense.

If the only thing you can say in support of Israel is that its detractors are anti Semitic you have no argument.

I quoted an news story from an Israeli newspaper Haaretz, you pulled a story out of your arse.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:39 pm
@oralloy,
Oralloy wrote:
Actually it was carried out by Usama Ibn Ladn and al-Qa'ida.


Bush had credible intelligence that airplane attacks were about to happen.

I wonder who tipped the CIA off? Perhaps some of Putin's disloyal minions?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:44 pm
@TheCobbler,
The Nazis were supporters of the state of Israel, mainly because they wanted to have somewhere to send their own Jews.

Prominent Jewish politicians tried to make an alliance with the Nazis during WW2. They were members of the Lehi (Stern gang,) some of whose members went to form Likud, most notably the future prime minister Yitzhak Shamir.

Try educating yourself about history instead of getting pissed up and imagining nonsense about Blofeld, sorry Putin.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:47 pm
@izzythepush,
Is suicide bombing, respecting human rights?

The rest or your nonsense is simply bloviating.

You pick anything so you can justify your anti-Semitism when both sides have violated human rights. Both sides have done despicable things.

It is the ultra conservatives on both sides that have the blood on their hands.

The ultra conservatives that have allowed Putin to run amok in their affairs.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 12:56 pm
@izzythepush,
Izzy, I don't drink alcohol.

Before and during WW2 many alliances were made and broken before the final allied forces were solidified...

Are you saying prominent Jews stayed loyal to Hitler throughout the war? How absurd, and you think I need to be educated about history?

You can slant the truth to justify your anti-Semitism if you like but don't expect me to bowl over to let your pigs fly.

I support peace and I do not pick sides concerning Israel and Palestine. I am neutral and support peace and that is more than I can say about you.

Many of the British royal family supported Hitler too!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 01:08 pm
@TheCobbler,
Terrorist grounds are that, condemned and criminal.

The soldiers of democratic armies are supposed to be held to a higher standard.

I have not supported any terrorist act, you have supported state sponsored terror, the IDF dropping white phosphorous on Palestinian schools and American GI’s dropping napalm and agent orange on Vietnamese children.

But hey, that’s alright because they’re Americans or America’s allies, they should be allowed to kill as many children as they like.

You are behaving like a drunk, and not a nice drunk either.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 01:16 pm
@TheCobbler,
I’m a Socialist, **** the Royal Family.

I’m saying that future Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Shamir was a member of a terrorist group, the Lehi, who tried to make an alliance with the Nazis during WW2.

After WW2 prominent South African Nazi and prime minister B J Vorster was given a hero’s welcome when he visited Israel.

They liked that Nazi so much they gave him nuclear weapons technology.

Educate yourself, try opening a book instead of a bottle.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 01:19 pm
@izzythepush,
Please educate yourself.

Military
Unlike previous years in which Iran's air fleet was entirely Western-made, Iran's Air Force and civilian air fleet are increasingly becoming domestically and Russian built as the US and Europe continue to maintain sanctions on Iran.[29][30][31] In 2010, Iran's refusal to halt uranium enrichment led the UN to pass a new resolution, number 1929 to vote for new sanctions against Iran which bans the sale of all types of heavy weaponry (including missiles) to Iran. This resulted in the cancellation of the delivery of the S-300 system to Iran:[32] In September 2010 Russian President Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree banning the delivery of S-300 missile systems, armored vehicles, warplanes, helicopters and ships to Iran.[citation needed] Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also criticized Russia for kowtowing to the United States.[33] As a result of the cancellation, Iran brought suit against Russia in Swiss court and in response to the lawsuit Russia threatened to withdraw diplomatic support for Iran in the nuclear dispute.[citation needed]

Since the outbreak of the Syrian civil war in 2011, Iran and Russia have become the Syrian government's principal allies in the conflict, openly providing armed support. Meanwhile, Russia's own relations with the West plummeted due to the Ukraine crisis, the 2018 Skripal poisoning incident in Great Britain, and alleged Russian interference with Western politics, prompting the U.S. and Europe to retaliate with sanctions against Russia. As a result, Russia has shown a degree willingness to ally with Iran militarily. Following the JCPOA agreement, President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban in 2015 and the deal for the S-300 missile defense system to Iran was revived.[34] The delivery was completed in November 2016 and was to be followed by a $10 billion deal that included helicopters, planes and artillery systems.[35]

Comment:
Putin sold the missiles attaching Israel to Iran.

Just because I don't want to swallow your ignorance whole does not mean I am drunk. On the contrary... I am quite lucid.

This article I just posted is from Wikipedia, maybe they are drunk and not nice drunks too.

Please take up your dispute of the facts with them if you are so "educated" about the matter.

You are the one who made all kinds of crazy accusations about me and called me "drunk". I hope you are not this way with your delirious mood swings to your family...

Both sides have blood on their hands... I don't support this war but apparently Putin is one of the main financers of it.
 

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