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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 31 Aug, 2020 11:51 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
I hate when people reply to ColdJoint because bypasses my blocking but this

You can always find another forum. Another coward from the UK.

Maybe someone tell you I asked you a question. Why aren't the Trump supporters doing the rioting? Guess? Because Trump supporters are not the the violent ones.

Also there are no capitals in my name. I am a humble man. Give it a try.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 12:00 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
You can always find another forum. Another coward from the UK.
You think, hinge emigrated to the UK? What gave you that idea?
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 02:37 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

I hate when people reply to ColdJoint because bypasses my blocking but this

Quote:
Trump has encouraged assaults on no one.

Is absolutely insane.

Trump encourages violence against reporters, and his supporters cheer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/10/19/trump-encourages-violence-against-reporters-and-his-supporters-cheer/

When the looting starts, the shooting starts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_looting_starts,_the_shooting_starts#Donald_Trump,_2020


And a selection from:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

The president tweeted his support of Michiganders, Minnesotans and Virginians protesting against restrictions, saying in separate all-caps tweets: "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!; LIBERATE MINNESOTA!; LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!"


When protesters, some armed, breached the state capitol in Lansing, Michigan, later that month, Trump tweeted that Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer needed to make a deal with them.

"The Governor of Michigan should give a little, and put out the fire," Trump wrote on Friday. "These are very good people, but they are angry. They want their lives back again, safely! See them, talk to them, make a deal."

Frustrated with a record number of people seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border in 2019, Trump at one point asked in a private meeting with close aides whether the U.S. could shoot migrants below the waist to slow them down.


Following months of Trump stepping up his attacks on both Democrats and the news media, just two weeks out from the 2018 midterms, one fervent supporter of Trump mailed at least 16 pipe bombs to prominent Democrats and media outlets. Trump briefly condemned the actions, before returning to his old rhetoric.

"In these times we have to unify," Trump said at first. "We have to come together and send one very clear, strong, unmistakable message that acts or threats of political violence of any kind have no place in the United States of America."

The recipients of the explosive devices, none of which detonated, included former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Robert De Niro and a CNN office.

One day after his call for unity, Trump reverted back to blaming the news media for causing America's troubles.

"A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!" he tweeted.


Trump defended the white nationalists who protested in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, saying there were "some very fine people on both sides" of the rally which left one woman dead, while expressing sympathy for their demonstration against the removal of a statue of Civil War Confederacy General Robert E. Lee.

"What about the alt-left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt-right?" Trump speaking in the lobby of Trump Tower. "Do they have any semblance of guilt?"

"When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just seen them thrown in, rough. I said, 'Please don't be too nice,'" he said.

During a rally for Montana Republicans ahead of the midterms, Trump praised Rep. Greg Gianforte, who allegedly body slammed a reporter back when he was initially running for his congressional seat in 2017.

"Any guy that can do a body slam, he is my type!" Trump said on Thursday to cheers.

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, OK? Just knock the hell ... I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise," the future president said on Feb. 1, 2016.

At a Las Vegas rally later that month, he said security guards were too gentle with a protester. "He's walking out with big high-fives, smiling, laughing," Trump said. "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you."

"Get him out," he said of a protester. "Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court. Don't worry about it."

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally in Iowa.


And it works
Violence in the name of Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2019/aug/28/in-the-name-of-trump-supporters-attacks-database


Thanks for this, HH.

It’s clear and definitive. Thanks for taking the time to do it. I’m afraid it won’t mean anything to tools like coldjoint or Oralloy though. They could stand while Trump drenched them in a yellow shower and praise him for the refreshment.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 02:45 am
H.C. Richardson wrote:
A bird's eye view of the country today sees a president seeming to slide off the rails. Trump is exaggerating the violence in cities to the point of caricature, while his supporters outright lie to try to advance his candidacy. On Thursday, Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway tipped the president’s hand on “Fox and Friends” when she said that “the more chaos and anarchy and vandalism and violence reigns, the better it is for” a candidate running on “law and order.”

In the wake of the Republican National Convention, which failed to boost his candidacy, Trump has been tweeting at an intense pace. Between 5:49 am and 8:04 am on Sunday, he tweeted or retweeted 89 messages, many of them inflaming the conflicts between protesters and his supporters. He retweeted a post from One America News claiming that “According to the mainstream media, the riots & extreme violence are completely unorganized. However, it appears this coup attempt is led by a well funded network of anarchists trying to take down the President.”

Yesterday, the president called the participants in the Portland “Trump cruise rally” “GREAT PATRIOTS!” and today called them “peaceful,” despite the fact they were shooting paintballs and pepper spray and driving vehicles into crowds. Today the president condemned what he called “the radical left,” but refused to condemn Trump supporter Kyle Rittenhouse, the seventeen-year-old who allegedly shot and killed two people and wounded a third with a friend’s AR-15 rifle (meaning Rittenhouse had it illegally) in Kenosha, Wisconsin last week. Trump suggested Rittenhouse, who has been charged with homicide, was “very violently attacked” by demonstrators (the video does not indicate this). Trump supporters, including Fox News Channel personality Tucker Carlson, have also defended Rittenhouse.

This afternoon, Trump claimed that Portland, Oregon “is ablaze.” Josh Campbell, a CNN law enforcement correspondent on the ground in Portland and a former FBI supervisory special agent, called this a lie.

Campbell told CNN: "Portland is not a city under siege. Today, I went to a Starbucks downtown, ate lunch at one of the city's famous downtown food trucks, and bought a new pair of shoes at the mall. As I write this, I'm looking out of my hotel room at a bike tour riding by outside on the downtown street…. To be sure, there have been protests -- peaceful during the daytime, and some turning violent at night -- for over 90 days, but the rioting has largely been confined to one city block downtown near the federal courthouse. Last night, protesters showed up at a police precinct a few miles from downtown and were dispersed by police after some protesters started throwing eggs and rocks at police cars. There has been periodic, localized violence, but nothing widespread."

Portland firefighter Lt. Rich Chatman agreed: “WE ARE NOT ABLAZE IN PORTLAND,” he texted to CNN reporter Daniel Dale. “There is a very isolated pocket of demonstrations that have involved fire… none of which have been substantial enough to need more than 1 fire engine.”

Trump’s vision of the world is getting more and more conspiratorial. Tonight in an interview with Fox News Channel personality Laura Ingraham, he claimed that “people that are in the dark shadows” are controlling Biden. He claimed this weekend there was an airplane full of “thugs” in “black uniforms,” out “to do big damage.” When Ingraham pressed for more information, he said: “I’ll tell you sometime but it’s under investigation.” Ingraham said: “That sounds like conspiracy theory.”

To push these ideas, Trump and his people are deliberately constructing a false narrative.

Trump’s YouTube channel is now home to a video featured at the Republican National Convention on Monday, showing rioting and a city in flames and implying those scenes are America in the past several months. In the film, one sister tells another that “This is a taste of Biden’s America,” as photos and videos of violence play. “The rioting, the crime. Freedom is at stake now and this is going to be the most important election of our lifetime.” In fact, the video is from Barcelona, Spain, in 2019.

Twitter has had to begin displaying warning labels on videos that have been “quote tweeted” (meaning users don’t simply retweet them, they add their own words, first), after leading Republican officials have circulated deceptively altered or edited videos, designed to hurt Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s candidacy.

House Minority Whip Steve Scalise tweeted a video that spliced together footage from an conversation between Biden and progressive activist Ady Barkan, who speaks with an artificial voice because he has ALS. The video added words to what Barkan actually said to make it sound as if the two were agreeing to defund police departments (in fact, Biden has proposed to increase police funding to include more money for “social workers, psychologists, people who in fact can handle those god-awful problems that a cop has to have four degrees to handle”). To the video, Scalise added "No police. Mob rule. Total chaos. That's the result of the Democrat agenda."

Barkan tweeted to Scalise: “These are not my words. I have lost my ability to speak, but not my agency or my thoughts. You and your team have doctored my words for your own political gain. Please remove this video immediately. You owe the entire disability community an apology.” Josh Marshall of TalkingPointsMemo was angry on Barkan’s behalf: “[Steve Scalise] you’re a disgrace. Who even imagines the depravity of doctoring the words of a man robbed of his voice by ALS let alone stoops to do it” he tweeted.

Twitter labeled the tweet with a warning and, under pressure, Scalise took it down, but not before tweeting: “While Joe Biden clearly said 'yes,' twice, to the question of his support to redirect money away from police, we will honor the request of [Barkan] and remove the portion of his interview from our video."

Today, White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications and Director of Social Media Dan Scavino also posted a manipulated video, this one supposedly showing Biden falling asleep during a live television interview. But it was a mix of an old video of singer Harry Belafonte, apparently napping before an interview while technical glitches were worked out, and Biden looking downward for a moment. Twitter had to break out another warning, and Belafonte simply said: “They keep stooping lower and lower. A technical glitch in an interview I did nine years ago now becomes another one of their lies, more of their fake news. I beg every sane American: please vote them out. I knew many who gave their life for the right to vote. Never has it been so vital to exercise that right.”

The Trump campaign wasn’t done yet, though: on Monday it also tweeted a clip of Biden saying “You won’t be safe in Joe Biden’s America.” But in fact, when he said that, Biden was quoting the president and vice president. The full quotation was: “Trump and Pence are running on this, and I find it fascinating: Quote, 'You won't be safe in Joe Biden's America.' And what's their proof? The violence we're seeing in Donald Trump's America.”

Apparently trying to link Biden to a radical left, Trump continues to demand that Biden must condemn “the Anarchists, Thugs & Agitators in ANTIFA,” and Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) has tried to tie Biden to “the Marxist Left.” It would be a stretch to link the famously moderate Biden with any sort of far left in America in any case, but, in fact, Biden has repeatedly condemned violence across the board. “I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right,” he said Sunday. Today he added: “I want to make it absolutely clear…. Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. . . . It’s lawlessness, plain and simple, and those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it’ll only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way.”

Biden accused Trump of “fanning the flames of hate and division in our society and using the politics of fear to whip up his supporters.”

The message that Trump is responsible for the unrest in the country is resonating with voters. A Military Times poll showed that almost 74% of active duty military personnel opposed Trump’s desire to use them against civil unrest in urban areas, while only 22% supported that idea. That opposition seems to be translating to voting preferences: 41.3% of active duty military personnel support Biden in the upcoming election, while 37.4 support Trump.

coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 10:49 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Trump is exaggerating the violence in cities to the point of caricature,

That is where everyone with any sense should stop reading. The violence is not exaggerated, people are dying for wearing the wrong hat. She is an out of touch academic that thinks she can lie because of who she is and what she does and the media's relentless hate fest.

She is disingenuous and dishonest.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 03:09 pm
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 03:22 pm
@coldjoint,
Trump wasn't doing well with his teleprompter last I saw.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 03:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Trump wasn't doing well with his teleprompter last I saw.

Trump is not senile, Biden is.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 04:06 pm
@MontereyJack,
I heard Trump had to deny having seven mini strokes in November. He’s certainly walking like something happened to his motor system.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 04:42 pm
@coldjoint,
Tell that to trump's teleprompter
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lmur
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 05:20 pm
@izzythepush,
The doctors said we've never seen anyone have so many not even any strokes. - Josh Marshall.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 06:30 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
@MontereyJack,
I heard Trump had to deny having seven mini strokes in November. He’s certainly walking like something happened to his motor system.


I do not wish Trump to die of a stroke as my desire is having him died of the damn coronavirus slowly very slowly given the numbers of Americans he had allow to pass needlessly away from the virus
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 07:15 pm
@BillRM,
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the numbers of Americans he had allow to pass needlessly away from the virus

Look to Governors, not Trump. Cuomo especially.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 09:09 pm
500 Faith Leaders Endorse Joe Biden And Kamala Harris For The White House
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/faith-leaders-back-biden-harris_n_5f4d5031c5b64f17e14163c0

True Christians and people of faith support Biden and Harris.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 09:12 pm
@maiden-usa,
YES, you speak the truth! America has become terrible, not "great" under Trump.

We need a real and compassionate leader who unifies, not divides people...
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 09:46 pm
@coldjoint,
BUFFOONS
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 10:01 pm
So now we are told to await the "Red Mirage" on Election Day and get ready to block theRumps last minute attempts to:

- stop the vote counting, and;
- declare himself the President elect before the final count is known.

One way is to sue select states to have their counting stopped and have him declared the winner before a final count is known.
Two, instill confusion and rancor in the counting process.
Three, put out Presidential decrees slow down and create confusion in the process......... etc, etc, etc..............
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 1 Sep, 2020 10:30 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
50 years of republican rule has led our country to this violence.

Progressive violence is caused by violent progressives, and has no other source.


TheCobbler wrote:
...and the Portland shooter was acting in self defense.

Got any evidence of that? Or do you just like murdering people who disagree with you?
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2020 08:48 am
Melania Trump used private email to conduct official White House business, former senior adviser says
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/melania-trump-used-private-email-to-conduct-official-white-house-business-former-senior-adviser-says/ar-BB18Dvd6
 

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