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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 09:39 am
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/108932385_2946371245411976_8333792379287589189_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=klQNuMLyRCgAX_uZgfB&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=17737a3caedb3e009651f22d75ba9da1&oe=5F363EF9
snood
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 10:26 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Well that was short lived. I wonder what was up with the whole thing? Do you think he was serious or just trying to get publicity?




I think he’s bipolar and off his meds
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 12:18 pm
@TheCobbler,
CROOK.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 12:55 pm
Twitter time.
Quote:

@LeeSmithDC
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Of course
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Michael Duncan
@MichaelDuncan
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Lincoln Project co-founder John Weaver registered as a foreign agent of Russia last year. twitter.com/projectlincoln…
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 01:38 pm
Quote:
PANIC! Biden Says ‘We Only Have Nine Years Left’ To Stop Global Warming…

Laughing Laughing Laughing
https://www.weaselzippers.us/452408-panic-biden-says-we-only-have-nine-years-left-to-stop-global-warming/
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 01:39 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
According to republicans, rape is a, "gift from God",

You cannot provide examples of Republicans saying any such thing.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 01:44 pm
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
Please quote your source and evidence or you are just guessing it is fake.

Let's start with the fact that that graphic comes from a Washington Post article about the many falsehoods in the chart.

The Washington Post awards the chart Three Pinocchios in fact.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/12/09/the-truth-about-a-viral-graphic-on-rape-statistics/


However, the Washington Post misses a big problem with the chart: it only labels someone as falsely accused if they are proven innocent.

All the falsely accused who haven't been decisively proven innocent get marked up as guilty in that graph.



TheCobbler wrote:
You are wrong.

No I'm not.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 01:45 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
I'll be glad to continue doing it, thank you.

Except, you aren't doing it. You make empty claims without ever backing up anything you say.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 01:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
more blahblah.

That is less-bad than most of your posts.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 01:54 pm
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
According to republicans, rape is a, "gift from God"

You have them confused with Islamic supremacists.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 01:59 pm
@TheCobbler,
There won't be a coffin or a flag for Trump.

Upon its earthly ending, Beelzebub and Mitch McConnell shall escort it back to the depths of Hell immediately and set it to work stoking the devil's furnace.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 04:47 pm
@Sturgis,
Even the devil would fire Trump...
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 07:43 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
You cannot provide examples of Republicans saying any such thing.


Republican Senate Candidate Says Rape Pregnancies Are a 'Gift from God'
Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, an Indiana Republican, turned a few heads and dropped a few jaws on Tuesday night when he said that pregnancies resulting from rape were "something that God intended to happen."

ADAM CLARK ESTES
OCTOBER 23, 2012

Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, an Indiana Republican, turned a few heads and dropped a few jaws on Tuesday night when he said that pregnancies resulting from rape were "something that God intended to happen." It happened during a debate between Mourdock and his opponent, Democratic Congressman Joe Donnelly and did not go unnoticed.

Another thing that did not go unnoticed was the ad featuring Mitt Romney endorsing Mourdock that dropped earlier this week. It was the first such endorsement Romney's made for a Republican candidate, and it may or may not still be valid. Update: Romney's campaign has not asked for the ad to be pulled, CNN's Jim Acosta reports.

We're getting ahead of ourselves. During Tuesday night's debate, Mourdock addressed the issue of abortion emotionally. The Washington Post's Aaron Blake said he was choking up when he said, "I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize life is that gift from God, and I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen." Just clip the phrases "gift from God" and "something that God intended to happen" in your mind, and remember that Mourdock is talking about rape. The words "gift" and "rape" do not often occur in the same sentence, especially in the final days of a Senate campaign.

Obviously, Mourdock's opponent pounced on the quote. "The God I believe in and the God I know most Hoosiers believe in, does not intend for rape to happen -- ever," Donnelly (D) said in a statement. "What Mr. Mourdock said is shocking, and it is stunning that he would be so disrespectful to survivors of rape." Disrespectful indeed. Is it more disrespectful that saying "some girls rape easy," like Republican state representative Roger Rivard said a couple of weeks ago? Or how about Congressman Todd Akin saying that it's rare for women to get pregnant from "legitimate rape?" Who knows any more -- these offensive rape comments are really starting to pile up!

As we mentioned earlier, though, Mourdock's statement really puts Romney in a bind. Not long after the "gift from God" quotes made headlines, Romney's press secretary Andrea Saul said in a statement, "Gov. Romney disagrees with Richard Mourdock's comments, and they do not reflect his views." She would not say whether or not Romney's endorsement of Mourdock still stands. Things get even more complicated for Romney when you take into consideration Paul Ryan's endorsement of Mourdock. "Please, please send us Richard Mourdock," Ryan said according to Mourdock's campaign materials. "We NEED this man in the United States Senate."

Mourdock, understandably, has been quick to defend himself against the backlash. "What I said was, in answering the question form my position of faith, I said I believe that God creates life. I believe that as wholly and as fully as I can believe it. That God creates life," he said in a post-debate press conference. "Are you trying to suggest that somehow I think that God pre-ordained rape? No, I don't think that. That's sick. Twisted. That's not even close to what I said. What I said is that God creates life."

We'll just leave you with the original quote. One last time" "I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen," said Mourdock. Is this the man we NEED in the Senate?
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 07:55 pm
Richard Mourdock

Prior offices
Vanderburgh County Commissioner
Indiana Treasurer
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Education
Bachelor's
Defiance College, 1973

Graduate
Ball State University, 1975

Personal Religion Christian

Richard Mourdock (b. October 8, 1951 in Wauseon, Ohio) is the former Republican State Treasurer in Indiana. He resigned from office on August 29, 2014 to pursue other opportunities. He was ineligible to run for re-election in 2014 due to term limits.[1]

Mourdock was a 2012 Republican candidate for election to the U.S. Senate from Indiana. He defeated incumbent Richard Lugar in the May 8, 2012, Republican primary and lost to Joe Donnelly (D) on November 6, 2012.[2][3]

Biography
Mourdock first took office as Indiana State Treasurer in February 2007. Prior to his election to the office, Mourdock served two terms as Commissioner of Vanderburgh County.[4] He was a candidate for Indiana Secretary of State in 2002 and U.S. Congress in 1990, 1992 and 2012.

Mourdock has served in a number of roles in his professional career, beginning as a field geologist for the AMAX Coal Company from 1975-1979. He went on to be a senior geologist for the Standard Oil Company from 1979-1984, and executive for Koester Companies, Inc. from 1984-2000. He has served as principal of R.E. Mourdock and Associates, Limited Liability Company since 2001.[5]

Mourdock was first elected as state treasurer in 2006. He served in the position until his resignation on August 29, 2014.[1]

Elections
2012
See also: United States Senate elections in Indiana, 2012
Mourdock ran in the 2012 election for the U.S. Senate, representing Indiana. Mourdock won nomination on the Republican ticket, defeating incumbent Richard Lugar in the May 8 primary.[2] [7] He was then defeated by Joe Donnelly (D) in the general election.

According to the website Daily Kos, this race was one of nine top-ballot 2012 races that contained Libertarian candidates who received more total votes than was the difference between the Democratic winner and the GOP runner-up. In this case, Andy Horning took in over 4,800 more votes than the number that separated Donnelly and Mourdock.[8]

The two candidates ran a close race, despite the fact that Indiana is seen as a Republican-leaning state. After the conservative Mourdock replaced the moderate Lugar as the Republican candidate, Democratic candidate Joe Donnelly had a good chance at wining the seat. Lugar drew support from members of both parties, but Mourdock's tea-party background divided Indiana voters along party lines.[9]

On October 23, 2012, in a debate against opponent Joe Donnelly, Mourdock, asked about his stance on abortion in the case of rape or incest, said "I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."[10] This remark caused New Hampshire Republican senator Kelly Ayotte to withdraw her support of Mourdock and cancel her plans to campaign for him in the final weeks before the election.[11]

An October 2012 article in The Daily named Mourdock one of the 20 worst candidates in 2012.[12]

Election law violation

Mourdock's Senate campaign came under scrutiny after allegations that Mourdock's state campaign used funds to aid his federal U.S. Senate campaign, a violation of federal election law.[13] This came as the result of a legal analysis conducted for the Lugar campaign and a complaint sent to the Federal Election Commission (FEC) by former Rushville, Indiana mayor and former Rush County Republican Chairman John McCane.[13]


The complaint stated that Mourdock "accessed voter information through his state committee, transferred the information to his federal committee and then used the information to send mass communications to voters through his federal committee."[13] Mourdock's state campaign accessed the information through the Party's computer database in January 2011, then transferred the information to his federal Senate campaign in February 2011 at time of his candidacy announcement to communicate with mass numbers of voters, and continued to use the information.[13]

Federal law specifically prohibits "transfers of funds or assets from a candidate's campaign committee or account for a non-federal election to his or her principal campaign committee or other authorized committee for a federal election."[13]

Push for bipartisanship

In the run-up to the election, many Republicans were trying to show that they were bipartisan and willing to work with Democrats. Mourdock tried to soften his position towards bipartisanship and show that he would be willing to work with Democrats. In a poll conducted by the New York Times and CBS news, results found that nearly 44 percent of Americans blamed Republicans for the deadlock in Congress. Republicans in 2012 tried to hold on to their districts by showing themselves to be more bipartisan.[14]

Endorsements

The Club for Growth endorsed Mourdock over incumbent Richard Lugar on February 14, 2012.[15][16] The National Rifle Association endorsed Mourdock over incumbent Richard Lugar are on March 7, 2012.[17] Indiana's Tea Party also endorsed Mourdock.[18] Indiana's Tea Party has also endorsed Mourdock.[19] The Family Research Council PAC endorsed Mourdock on January 31, 2012.[20]

Mourdock received an endorsement from the Gun Owners of America Political Victory Fund (dead link).[21]

Sarah Palin announced her endorsement of Mourdock over incumbent Senator Richard Lugar on April 27, 2012.[22]

On May 2, 2012 Mourdock received endorsements from Representative Michele Bachmann and Grover Norquist, of Americans for Tax Reform.[23]

Super PACs

According to information compiled by Center for Responsive Politics, as of May 7, 2012 super PACs spent approximately $2.5 million in the race between incumbent Richard Lugar and Mourdock.[24]

Information from the Center for Public Integrity showed that Super PACs and other outside groups were on track to spend more on challenger Mourdock in his campaign to unseat Lugar than Mourdock’s own campaign.[25] As of the most recent campaign filings available to the Federal Election Commission (FEC) prior to the primary election on May 8, outside groups supportive of Mourdock had spent "about $3 million, $1 million more than Mourdock’s own campaign."[25]
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 08:03 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
You cannot provide examples of Republicans saying any such thing.


Darryl Glenn Says Children From Rape ‘a Gift From God”
Colorado Republican candidate is already a long shot in Senate race

Colorado Senate nominee Darryl Glenn's comments are the latest in a line of Republican candidates making controversial comments about abortion and rape. (Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call file photo)

By Eric Garcia
Posted October 6, 2016 at 1:35pm

A video from a year ago has been unearthed that shows Colorado Republican Senate candidate Darryl Glenn calling children born from rape “a gift from God.”

The clip, featured in the Colorado Springs Independent, shows Glenn telling a campaign event audience in Jefferson County in 2015 that if a woman wants an abortion, “don’t ask me to pay for it.”

“That’s a gift from God,” he said. “There are no exceptions with that. But that doesn’t mean I’m not going to pray for you.”

[A Republican Face of Diversity That No One Saw]

The comments have shades of 2012 when Missouri Rep. Todd Akin, who was running against Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill, said that if a woman is raped and it is “legitimate rape,” then the body “has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

That same year, Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, running against Democrat Joe Donnelly, said that “even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.”

Both Mourdock and Akin lost their races, but Glenn’s comments will not likely move the needle much as he has long been short on campaign cash and has trailed incumbent Democratic Sen. Michael Bennet in the polls.

The Rothenberg & Gonzales Political Report/Roll Call rates the race as Safe Democrat.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 08:07 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
You cannot provide examples of Republicans saying any such thing.


By DAVID COHEN 08/19/2012 05:04 PM EDT Updated 08/20/2012 02:09 PM EDT

Todd Akin, Missouri’s Republican Senate candidate, sparked controversy with a claim, made in a TV interview posted Sunday, that victims of “legitimate rape” very rarely get pregnant because their bodies prevent them from doing so.

Speaking to Charles Jaco on the Jaco Report on St. Louis’s Fox station, Akin was answering a question about allowing abortions in the case of rape. He said, “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Akin, who is attempting to oust Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill, also stated that if a women did conceive after a rape, he would still oppose abortion in this case because “the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”

Later Sunday, Akin released a three-paragraph statement on his campaign’s website explaining the remarks:

“In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it’s clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year,” the statement said.

Akin also stated: “I believe deeply in the protection of all life and I do not believe that harming another innocent victim is the right course of action.”

A video of the interview was posted on the station’s website. The host had introduced Akin by describing his credentials as one of the more conservative members of Congress.

Akin, a six-term congressman, recently emerged from a three-way primary against John Brunner and Sarah Steelman to earn the right to challenge McCaskill, who is widely considered one of the most vulnerable Democratic incumbents.

McCaskill responded Sunday to Akin’s comments via Twitter:

“As a woman & former prosecutor,” she said, “who handled 100s of rape cases, I’m stunned by Rep. Akin’s comments about victims this AM.”

McCaskill, according to the Associated Press, elaborated later by email: “It is beyond comprehension that someone can be so ignorant about the emotional and physical trauma brought on by rape,” she said. “The ideas that Todd Akin has expressed about the serious crime of rape and the impact on its victims are offensive.”

As Akin’s comments circulated, the blogosphere lit up with reactions. Posted on the Daily Kos: “The GOP’s Senate nominee in Missouri, Rep. Todd Akin, is fluent in wacked-out crazy.”

During his Jaco Report interview, Akin also talked about potentially turning over school-lunch programs to the states, and spoke of the potential of repealing the 17th Amendment, which allows for the direct election of U.S. senators, among other topics.

Recent polling has shown Akin slightly ahead of McCaskill. Nate Silver, writing last week on the New York Times’s Five Thirty Eight page said, “Mr. Akin’s polling lead has been consistent enough that I now view the race as tilting toward him.”
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 08:12 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
You cannot provide examples of Republicans saying any such thing.


Republican politician says rape and incest part of God's will
'If you read the Bible, there’s actually a couple circumstances where that happened and the Lord uses all circumstances'


Peter Walker @petejohn_walker
Thursday 23 March 2017 16:12

A Republican politician who was defending a new abortion bill claimed rape and incest could all be part of God’s will.

Oklahoma representative George Faught also said “the Lord uses all circumstances” while debating the amendment in the US state’s House of Representatives.

The bill would impose fines of $10,000, rising to $100,000, for any person who performs an abortion solely because of a diagnosis of Down’s syndrome or any other “genetic abnormality”.

Republicans push bill to allow doctors to lie about foetal anomalies
“Is rape the will of God?” asked Rep. Cory Williams.

Mr Faught replied: “If you read the Bible, there’s actually a couple circumstances where that happened and the Lord uses all circumstances.

“I mean, you can go down that path, but it’s a reality, unfortunately.”

When Mr Williams pushed him on whether both rape and incest were the will of God, Mr Faught followed up: “It’s a great question to ask, and, obviously if it happens in someone’s life, it may not be the best thing that ever happened. But, so you’re saying that God is not sovereign with every activity that happens in someone’s life and can’t use anything and everything in someone’s life, and I disagree with that.”

The HB1549 bill, introduced by Mr Faught, also said the woman would not be held criminally liable and could bring civil action against the physician.

KFOR.com reports that the bill passed with 67 votes to 16, and that more than 16 others abstained from voting.

A similar bill passed both the House and Senate last year, but Governor Mary Fallin vetoed it because she deemed it unconstitutional. HB 1549 now heads to the Senate.

Abortion law varies across the US. At least 11 anti-abortion bills have been introduced to the House of Representatives in Oklahoma already this year, which includes women having to ask for the father’s written permission.

A documentary by the BBC and actor Sally Phillips last year looked at the ethics of an NHS pregnancy screening test that detects, with 99 per cent accuracy, the foetal abnormalities indicating Down's syndrome.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 09:59 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Darryl Glenn Says Children From Rape "a Gift From God"

Saying that "children from rape are a gift from God" is much different from saying that "rape is a give from God".

But perhaps Mr. Cobbler meant to include the part about children, and accidentally and unintentionally left it out.

I screw up my own sentences that way on occasion.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 10:02 pm
@oralloy,
I provided you with the examples that proved you were wrong.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 15 Jul, 2020 10:07 pm
@neptuneblue,
That is incorrect. You provided no examples of a Republican saying that rape is a gift from God.

That's not your fault. No such examples exist.
 

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