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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:14 am
@oralloy,
You clearly do nokt have the least knowledge of how recounts work or how fucked up Hollerith card voting machines could get. Democratic cheating is another will-o'-the-wisp fantasy in your and GOP minds. Or for that matter how GOP dirty tricks work,
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:15 am
@MontereyJack,
I understand how recounts work and I understand cheating.

Al Gore tried to cheat. He failed. Then he kept trying over and over and over again until the Supreme Court shut him down.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:17 am
@oralloy,
January 22 works for me, and for the country.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:17 am
@MontereyJack,
It won't work for you except for his most recent executive orders.

His long-standing executive orders would take time to undo.

Not that you'll have to worry about it. Mr. Trump will be reelected.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:22 am
@oralloy,
They can all be voided at once and should be. May take a while to implement them, but that'll be fasttracked, and trump is down fourteen oints in the polls. don't get too cocksure.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:43 am
@MontereyJack,
That is incorrect. Only the most recent executive orders can be voided at once.

Most of Mr. Trumps executive orders would take years to reverse.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 07:50 am
@oralloy,
A sitting U.S. President can overturn any existing executive order just by issuing another executive order to that effect.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:01 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Not exactly. Implementing an executive order is a long process, and undoing an executive order is an equally long process.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:18 am
@oralloy,
So the legal explanations by various US.gov-sites are wrong?
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:24 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I've no idea. What do they say?
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:33 am
@oralloy,
That's the F
GOP for you, Break the law and be proud of it. John Bolton has been an insufferable asshole for years. Figures you'd like him.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:36 am
@oralloy,
simply stop ny further implementation. cut off funding for the operation. Since it has no congressional approval, that should be instantly possible.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:38 am
@MontereyJack,
Well it often isn't.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:40 am
@MontereyJack,
No such lawbreaking. Al Gore was cheating.

Mr. Bolton was instrumental in stopping the UN's attempt to create a global gun ban treaty:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010726044319/un.int/usa/01_104.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20020821044136/grip.org/bdg/g1894.html
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:46 am
@oralloy,
oh. And let the companies that have contracts to build a wall finish out their contracts. Just reroute them to Florida and have them build an escape-proof wall around Mar-a-Lago instead.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 08:57 am
@oralloy,
further evidence he was an asshole endangering world peace.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 09:40 am
@MontereyJack,
Not at all. Americans have every right to carry guns. Those UN freaks needed to be put in their place.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 10:15 am
@oralloy,



they do not have an unbridled right to shoot other people with them. That's the problem you refuse to address.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 10:21 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
they do not have an unbridled right to shoot other people with them.

People have the right to defend themselves. That is one of the fundamental cornerstones of legitimate government.


MontereyJack wrote:
That's the problem you refuse to address.

The lack of an unbridled right is no problem at all.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 10 Jun, 2020 11:05 am
@oralloy,
So stop trying to dance around the situation, Give me a workable achievable way to stop the massive violation of civil rights caused by gun violence. Stiffened penalties is NOT a solution, because people still end up irretrievably dead. STOP the violations of civil rights, not punish them after someone is dead because of those violations. There is a conflict of rights here, and we';re on the side of life while you're on the side of death, and that's unacceptable.
 

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