@oralloy,
So stop trying to dance around the situation, Give me a workable achievable way to stop the massive violation of civil rights caused by gun violence. Stiffened penalties is NOT a solution, because people still end up irretrievably dead. STOP the violations of civil rights, not punish them after someone is dead because of those violations. There is a conflict of rights here, and we';re on the side of life while you're on the side of death, and that's unacceptable.