Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

Destroy your history, destroy your culture. No big deal in the UK.

The funny thing is that the net result is that history gets gradually whitewashed. How do you teach kids about how prominent slavery and other historical wrongs were if you don't preserve the evidence?

This is white people so eager to whitewash history in order to maintain it as an object of worship instead of treating it as it should be treated, an archive for study and reflection about the past.

What branco calls pandering is doing what the people who elected you want their government to do, and of course republicans would never stoop to doing that. They only pander to a better class of people: billionires, Trump's [people, not losers like you.

So why do the statues of slaveholders never have sheir slaves in chains with lash strokes scarring their backs cast in bronze on the statue with them? Those heroic statues you extol are the whitewash.

The history is slavery. Do those statues sculpt slaves in chains with his "heroic bootheelk on their necks? No, they don't. Why not? That's the culture you're going giddy about.

January is six months away, quite a bit less than a decade.

The Democrats' next realistic chance at the White House is January 2037.

And even then only if they purge the progressives from their party and nominate a moderate.

I'm not going to argue with you there. It seems clear that when someone's estate/heirs donates a large amount of money to a local government to put up a statue in their honor, it's not going to be critical of the person's business.

What I'm saying, however, is that historians/archaeologists can discover such statues when they tour cities and think about how they got there, why they represent history in the way they do; and that is a method for making sense of history and social-economic politics of culture.

Once you remove that statue, no one can encounter it and ask, "why is this statue here?," "what does this statue say about the people and the culture that put it here?" "why/how did the person memorialized in this statue achieve so much worldly success that a statue was dedicated to them?" etc.

Once the statue is gone, all people have are books about the past, and as most critical thinkers should know, books can spin facts and misrepresent history in various ways. That's why it is good to be able to discover artifacts like this on your own and think about what it means for that artifact to be there, and what you can extrapolate about history by reflecting on the broader context of the history of the artifact as well as the history of whatever is represented by the artifact.

When we preserve buildings, monuments, and other artifacts, the world becomes a museum that gives us another way to study history, both the good and bad of it.

I think the millions in the streets and their popular support have just tossed your prediction ion the ash heap of history. Jan. 2020.

Let's see what the voters say on election day.

yes, let's.

I can’t imagine you accepting his being voted out of office as the simple will of the people. For some reason it’s much easier for me to envision you talking about how the election results are fake and that the deep state has staged a coup. I’m not sure whether that’s a comment on my powers of imagination or on your character.

I can't imagine the uproar when only Democratic states allow voting by mail. Everyone knows without cheating Biden cannot win.

The guy with the Trump hat on can't be a republican. He is not carrying three guns and 4 knives.

All statues in Labour councils across England and Wales, and across London, will be examined for links to slavery and plantation owners, their leaders have said, as an east London authority took one down off its plinth on Tuesday evening. (The local council, Tower Hamlets, said it had removed the statue and had "also announced a review into monuments and other sites in our borough to understand how we should represent the more troubling periods in our history".)

It's safe to say that any time there is voting of any sort, a progressive is cheating. Even if the voting is just rating posts on a messageboard, there'll still be a progressive cheating somehow.

But the Electoral College should keep the 2020 presidential cheating firewalled behind state lines. It doesn't matter if the Democrats manufacture a trillion votes in California. That will still only earn them the same 55 votes in the Electoral College that they'd get if they didn't cheat.

All of these people singing the praises of preserving all historical artifacts - no matter how rawly offensive - would they be consistent in this viewpoint if the subject was the preservation of Nazi artifacts in Germany?

The reaction has been hysterical, these people can only think in extremes. Over here the same idiots are talking about historical figures like Drake, Raleigh and Churchill being removed because of their less than squeaky clean pasts.

It’s nonsense, we ‘re not talking about historical figures like Churchill who had a chequered past. He defeated Hitler but treated the Indians appallingly. Similarly with other figures like Drake and Raleigh.

This movement is about removing the statues of those who made their fortunes from human misery like slavery or any of the related industries like tobacco and sugar. Many of those people may have given their fortunes to good causes on their deaths which is why they had the statues in the first place.

That doesn’t excuse how the respective fortunes were made in the first place.

And more importantly it doesn’t take into account the effect on BAME people who have to see this stuff every day.