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Turning The Ballot Box Against Republicans

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 12:02 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
I'm a tad unclear about

almost anything.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 01:46 am
@coldjoint,
So the Republicans can try again to take away affordable healthcare insurance and bring back preexisting conditions limits? I don't think so...

The republican's chances of taking back anything is zero.

The people have caught on to greedy republicans and their sell-out policies.

The general electorate wants republicans out of office ASAP. Democrats will walk to the polling stations barefoot and on broken glass if necessary to see it happens.

Only 6 out of 100 polls have Trump ahead of Biden...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 02:06 am
@coldjoint,
can't come up with a rebuttal can you? just a pathetic attempt to deflect.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 02:21 am
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 03:02 am
Are you republicans and is our economy prepared for Trump's response to a serious Ebola outbreak?

Then Trump can blame the WHO for not being fully funded and ready... (cynical)
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 03:17 am
GOP digs in against more economic aid for people, hospitals, states
https://peoplesworld.org/article/gop-digs-in-against-more-economic-aid-for-people-hospitals-states/

Comment:
This will surely get more votes for the GOP! (lol)
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 03:23 am
Millionaires receive $1.7m in coronavirus relief as most taxpayers get $1,200 payments thanks to hidden Republican loophole
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-stimulus-checks-millionaires-wealthy-tax-break-loophole-a9466476.html

The same millionaires who "currently" don't pay a cent in taxes...
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 03:26 am
Coronavirus cases skyrocket in South Dakota after governor dismisses quarantine measures
https://nypost.com/2020/04/14/coronavirus-cases-skyrocket-in-south-dakota/

Huh? Do you think there is a correlation? (cynical)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 03:35 am
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
By 15 April, when Smithfield finally closed under pressure from the South Dakota governor's office, the plant had become the number one hotspot in the US, with a cluster of 644 confirmed cases among Smithfield employees and people who contracted it from them. In total, Smithfield-related infections account for 55% of the caseload in the state, which is far outpacing its far more populous Midwestern neighbour states in cases per capita. According to the New York Times, the Smithfield Foods case numbers have surpassed the USS Theodore Roosevelt naval ship and the Cook County Jail in Chicago, Illinois.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52311877

This is part of a much longer article. The Smithfield plant is owned by a Chinese Billionaire. It's his profits the people of South Dakota a dying for.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 03:37 am
Just in time for them all to infect each other! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many of them will be dead come November suffocating in their own lungs.

Just another example of how, you can't fix stupid.

Thousands of Americans answer Trump's call to 'liberate' states from governors' stringent coronavirus lockdowns with mass protests - as Floridans flood beaches the minute they are partially reopened
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8228769/Bleak-figures-China-US-economic-hit-virus.html

What is more stupid? This or their innate shared racism?
White supremacy at its very lowest denominator...

Another example of Trump's bankruptcies in action.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 03:42 am
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 03:45 am
@izzythepush,
Thanks for that Izzy.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 04:34 am
Ireland to quadruple WHO contribution after Trump halts funding
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/world-news/ireland-to-quadruple-who-contribution-after-trump-halts-funding/17/04/
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 04:36 am
Obama administration asked for funding to tackle future pandemics but Republicans refused
Tea Party blocked hundreds of millions in funding, investigation finds
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/obama-ebola-coronavirus-trump-congress-tea-party-a9469186.html

COULD TRUMP BE CRIMINALLY LIABLE FOR HIS DEADLY MISHANDLING OF CORONAVIRUS? | OPINION
https://www.newsweek.com/could-trump-criminally-liable-his-deadly-mishandling-coronavirus-opinion-1498146
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 04:46 am
YouTube removes 300 ads for Trump's reelection campaign
YouTube has removed hundreds of ads for President Trump's reelection campaign for violating its policies, an investigation by CBS News's "60 Minutes" has found. More than 300 videos were removed from the platform, "60 Minutes" reported, citing transparency reports by Google, which owns YouTube.


Trump is the source of "Fake News"...

Also in the news:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/16/barack-obama/obama-gops-stance-preexisting-conditions-base-espe/

Republicans “have shown themselves willing to cut millions off their health insurance and eliminate preexisting condition protections for millions more, even in the middle of this public health crisis."

Obama knocks GOP’s stance on preexisting conditions during pandemic

Endorsing his former vice president, Joe Biden, to win the White House, former President Barack Obama sought to contrast the 2020 platforms of Democrats and Republicans on a critical plank: their stance on the Affordable Care Act. It’s a difference, he argued, that has assumed newfound urgency.

"The Republicans occupying the White House and running the Senate … have shown themselves willing to cut millions off their health insurance and eliminate preexisting condition protections for millions more, even in the middle of this public health crisis," Obama said.

Obama was referring to a couple of GOP policies, the former president’s senior adviser Eric Schultz told KHN. The first: a pending Supreme Court case, Texas v. Azar, in which the Trump administration has argued the 2010 health law should be struck down. Schultz also highlighted the White House’s refusal to provide a special open enrollment period for the ACA health exchanges in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

We’ve previously checked claims about President Donald Trump’s stance on the law’s preexisting condition protections — arguably its most popular component ― and his position on the Texas v. Azar lawsuit.

But COVID-19 adds new relevance, because of both the virus’s devastating health implications and bludgeoning impact on the American economy. Indeed, the Trump administration’s handling of the virus crisis is shaping up to be a defining issue in the run-up to November. Meanwhile, Biden made the health care law a signature component of his presidential platform and has been a vocal critic of the administration’s pandemic response.

With that in mind, we decided to take another look.

The Republican agenda
Obama is correct: The Republican Party has opposed the ACA for years. In 2016, then-candidate Trump campaigned on its repeal. Since then, the White House and congressional Republicans have pursued an agenda that would dismantle the law’s preexisting condition protections. Republicans haven’t united behind an alternative plan, either.

First: the lawsuit. Texas v. Azar stems from the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. That measure took the teeth out of the health law’s individual mandate, which required that all Americans have health insurance or pay a penalty. The tax law, pushed by Republicans and signed by Trump, set that penalty to $0.

A collection of Republican states’ attorneys general now argue that, without the penalty, the rest of the health law doesn’t work and should be struck down.

Killing the ACA would eliminate the stipulation that insurance plans cannot charge people more if they have a preexisting condition, get rid of the subsidies it provides for people to buy insurance on the exchanges and gut the Medicaid expansion that, in six years, directly extended coverage to more than 13 million people. The Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case, although it won’t rule until after the November election.

The Trump administration, while technically in the position that would defend the law in court, has declined to support it — a move legal experts say is almost unprecedented. In fact, the administration has even sided with the states arguing that it should be struck down. Neither the White House nor Senate Republicans have put forth a replacement bill that would maintain the ACA’s protections in the event the high court rules against the law.

We asked the White House if the administration had changed its stance in the wake of the pandemic. Trump’s staff redirected us to the Justice Department, the federal government’s legal arm. The department did not respond to emailed requests for comment. As recently as the end of March, though, Trump told reporters he still wanted the law "terminated."

Senate Democrats have pushed the administration to change its position on the lawsuit. But Republicans, who hold the Senate majority, have been silent, a position that hasn’t changed even since COVID-19 effectively shut down large swaths of the country.

In some ways, the Republican stance isn’t important, argued Thomas Miller, a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a public policy think tank. It’s hard to imagine the Supreme Court voting to get rid of the health law, especially in the midst of COVID-19, he said.

Still, that doesn’t change the facts of what Trump is arguing.

And the lawsuit is also only one part of the equation. Another, is healthcare.gov.

Americans who have lost their jobs ― and, often, the insurance that came with it — are eligible to buy insurance on the federal exchange, since job loss is a "qualifying life event" that gets you special access. Those who otherwise lack coverage would normally have to wait until the regular open enrollment period, which takes place at the end of the year. But the threat of COVID-19 has changed the risk for many of these potential shoppers.

In response, 11 states have independently reopened their state-run health exchanges for a special sign-up period. But the administration has declined to take such steps for the national marketplace.

"If you have been uninsured and picked up your newspaper, or turned on your news and realized your health was in much greater risk than you had anticipated, and would like to rush and get health insurance in case you end up on a ventilator ― you’re out of luck," said Linda Blumberg, a health policy fellow at the Urban Institute, a nonprofit research organization.

Even before coronavirus, the institute estimated that 32 million Americans were uninsured. About 20 million of them could benefit from a special enrollment period, Blumberg said. Without insurance, coronavirus treatment poses not just a health risk, but also a financial one.

The Trump administration has said it will pay hospitals directly, out of a pool of $100 billion, to cover the cost of treating uninsured people with COVD-19. After treating patients, hospitals would get paid at the Medicare rate.

But the administration’s policy extends only to covering COVID-19 treatment. Uninsured people with underlying chronic conditions don’t have a way to pay for health care, noted Robert Berenson, another Urban Institute fellow. If left untreated, those chronic ailments make COVID-19 far more dangerous than it would be for someone able to get preventive treatment earlier on.

Coronavirus and the ACA
President Trump’s stance raises another question, experts noted. Without the ACA, what kind of impact would COVID-19 have?

Even with the heath law intact, many Americans won’t be able to find affordable health insurance. That particularly applies to people who can’t afford the premiums on the individual marketplace, don’t qualify for federal subsidies or live in one of the 14 states that didn’t opt into the ACA’s Medicaid expansion provision.

And the ACA is nowhere near sufficient on its own, Miller noted. Having insurance is part of the picture, but it doesn’t guarantee access to testing or that a hospital will be able to treat you. "On the margins, it does help a little bit to have insurance coverage, but the problem is so much larger than that," Miller argued.

Still, without the health law, the virus’s impact would be "catastrophic," said Jonathan Oberlander, a health policy professor at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.

Striking the individual marketplace and Medicaid expansion would leave almost another 20 million people uninsured — "at risk for not only illness from COVID-19, but also massive medical bills," said Larry Levitt, a vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation. (KHN is an editorially independent program of the foundation.)

Without the ACA, COVID-19 could be considered a preexisting condition. Insurance companies could charge more to cover people who have previously contracted the virus (assuming, of course, those people can get tested and recorded as having had COVID-19). Plus, emerging evidence suggests severe cases of COVID-19 may leave lingering health consequences, that even after recovery would require ongoing medical care, Levitt said.

"The ACA’s consumer protections ensure that persons with COVID-19 can obtain insurance without fear of being turned away or charged exorbitant premiums because of their preexisting condition," Oberlander said.

The health law also imposed strict regulations over what insurance must cover. Without those regulations, plans could ― and likely would — revert to skimpier coverage, Blumberg said.

That, she said, means plans that perhaps don’t cover ventilators or branded medicines, or that cap how many days of hospital care they’ll cover, or that require people to pay much more out-of-pocket.

"Insurers, given the legal ability to do it, would limit their legal liability and protect themselves from high claims," she said. "They did it before and will do it again."

Our ruling
Obama accused the Trump administration and Senate Republicans of being "willing to cut millions off their health insurance and eliminate preexisting condition protections for millions more, even in the middle of this public health crisis."

Evidence indicates that this is an apt characterization. None have put forth a plan that would maintain coverage or consumer protections ― policies that benefit millions of Americans — if the Supreme Court rules against the ACA. And as Obama asserts, striking down the law without an equivalent replacement could be devastating, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic. We rate this claim True.



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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 05:24 am
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/3c7/363/e5adc34d59d8eac1298ece74bf8a87ac11-michigan-protest.rsquare.w700.jpg

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Comment:
This is the same mob that took their money out of the stock market back in January.
livinglava
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 06:05 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/3c7/363/e5adc34d59d8eac1298ece74bf8a87ac11-michigan-protest.rsquare.w700.jpg

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/2rLPne5d9Ap9mo8kzhpVsw--~B/aD01NDk7dz05NzY7c209MTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en-gb/bbc_us_articles_995/14c9018f82d6f89c4bef5970ed1031d0

Why does preventive living have to involve stress/fear?

Couldn't people just come up with ways to live free that aren't conducive to viral transmission?

It seems like liberty could be a foundation for coming up with a virus-safe economy/society, but then people have to take the liberty of devising innovative ways of doing things that keep themselves and others safe from infection.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 10:56 am
@livinglava,
the problem is, with the virus, it's NOT '"live free or die", it's "live free AND die". That's why there are lockdowns. That's why the evangelical preacher who thought god would step in and protect him, so he held a public church service, died from coved19, If you have an alternative, present it.



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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 11:07 am
@coldjoint,
truly weakass attempt to deflect.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 18 Apr, 2020 11:11 am
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
So the Republicans can try again to take away affordable healthcare insurance and bring back preexisting conditions limits?

Trump has said many times preexisting conditions will be covered. When his health plan goes through and it does not cover them would be the time to complain, not now.
 

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