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The Truth...bushincs Greatest Enemy

 
 
Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 08:52 am
The first paragraph says it all.....

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040611/D834H3VG0.html
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 09:14 am
Is the title suppose to be Bushnics or BushInc? I can buy both. Nevertheless, it makes the regime in Washington look even more like the "Whoops Administration."
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 09:36 am
Anyone who is aware of the goings on around the world must have, or should have realized that the report was false. Yet administration officials shouted the report from the roof tops. Could it be that they are that stupid or they believe we are that stupid?

The claim by the administration is that it was the result of an honest error.
Anyone want to buy a bridge? This administration is fully invested in the big lie theory.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 09:40 am
au1929 wrote:
Anyone who is aware of the goings on around the world must have, or should have realized that the report was false. Yet administration officials shouted the report from the roof tops. Could it be that they are that stupid or they believe we are that stupid?

The claim by the administration is that it was the result of an honest error.
Anyone want to buy a bridge? This administration is fully invested in the big lie theory.


re: your first paragraph....or both?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 09:48 am
Look everyone! A molehill!
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 09:49 am
McGentrix wrote:
Look everyone! A molehill!


like a stain on a blue dress?
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 09:50 am
McG
And the mole is in the oval office or should I say rat.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 09:53 am
Nope, just something else to tack on the endless of conspiracy theories brought forth from the left.

Bush must have an evil twin because the left are always talking about how stupid Bush is. They like to think he needs the secret service to tie his shoes, but then turn around and lay out these elaborate schemes that Deep Blue would have trouble creating that make Bush out to be an evil genius...

just more blather coming in from the left... Nothing to see here...
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 10:10 am
McGentrix wrote:
Nope, just something else to tack on the endless of conspiracy theories brought forth from the left.

Bush must have an evil twin because the left are always talking about how stupid Bush is. They like to think he needs the secret service to tie his shoes, but then turn around and lay out these elaborate schemes that Deep Blue would have trouble creating that make Bush out to be an evil genius...

just more blather coming in from the left... Nothing to see here...


you'll be moving along then....everyone's a winner.....
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mesquite
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 11:29 am
McGentrix wrote:
Nope, just something else to tack on the endless of conspiracy theories brought forth from the left.

Bush must have an evil twin because the left are always talking about how stupid Bush is. They like to think he needs the secret service to tie his shoes, but then turn around and lay out these elaborate schemes that Deep Blue would have trouble creating that make Bush out to be an evil genius...

just more blather coming in from the left... Nothing to see here...

McG, Au made an excellent point.
au1929 wrote:
Anyone who is aware of the goings on around the world must have, or should have realized that the report was false. Yet administration officials shouted the report from the roof tops. Could it be that they are that stupid or they believe we are that stupid?

Care to take a shot at which is the case?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 11:38 am
That's crap. How's that for taking a shot?

If so many people were "aware" why are we only finding out now, and why are we finding out from the people that produced the report?

Is it so hard to believe that a mistake was made without having some nefarious, underhandedness going on?

The report came out, it was reported on by both sides, and now it has been discovered to be incomplete. when the report is brought forth again, it will again be examined by both sides.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 11:53 am
Pretty long line of such 'errors' now. And in one of those weird and unusual bits of localized improbability, they always turn out to have been erroneously in support of some administration wish.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 12:24 pm
blatham wrote:
Pretty long line of such 'errors' now. And in one of those weird and unusual bits of localized improbability, they always turn out to have been erroneously in support of some administration wish.


yes that is staggeringly odd is it not?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 01:00 pm
I doesn't take that long for Whoopsitis to resemble the boy who cried wolf. First it's WMD (a terminololgy banied around until nearly rendered meaningless), then the administration let go of the reins and our soldier/interegators unnecessarily abused (a euphemism for tortured) suspects of terroism (an anamoly in itself) and on and on. I have lost trust in those boys in Washington knowing their ass from a hole in the ozone layer.
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mesquite
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 01:02 pm
McGentrix wrote:
If so many people were "aware" why are we only finding out now, and why are we finding out from the people that produced the report?


How about this.
Quote:
Boucher said the errors began to become apparent in early May. "We got phone calls from people who were going through our report and who said to themselves, as we should have said to ourselves: 'This doesn't feel right. This doesn't look right.' And who started asking us questions," he said
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 01:36 pm
From The Guardian:::::
US government faked Bush news reports

Chris Tryhorn
Tuesday March 16, 2004

TV news reports in America that showed President George Bush getting a standing ovation from potential voters have been exposed as fake, it has emerged.
The US government admitted it paid actors to pose as journalists in video news releases sent to TV stations intending to convey support for new laws about health benefits.

Investigators are examining the film segments, in which actors pretending to be journalists praise the benefits of the new law passed last year by President Bush, to see if they could be construed as propaganda.

Two of the films are signed off by "Karen Ryan", who was an actor hired to read a script prepared by the government, according to production company Home Front Communications.

Another video, intended for Hispanic viewers, shows a government official being interviewed in Spanish by a actor posing as a reporter with the name "Alberto Garcia".

One segment shows a pharmacist telling an elderly customer the new law "helps you better afford your medications".

"It sounds like a good idea," the customer says, to which the pharmacist replies, "A very good idea."

And in some scenes President Bush is shown receiving a standing ovation from a crowd cheering him as he signed the Medicare law, which is designed to help elderly people with prescriptions.

The government also prepared scripts to be used by news anchors. "In December, President Bush signed into law the first-ever prescription drug benefit for people with Medicare," the script reads.

"Since then, there have been a lot of questions about how the law will help older Americans and people with disabilities. Reporter Karen Ryan helps sort through the details." The "reporter" then explains the benefits of the new law.

Lawyers from the investigative arm of Congress discovered the tapes as part of an investigation into federal money that was used to publicise the new law.

They will be keen to ascertain whether the government might have misled viewers by failing to reveal the source of the videos, which were broadcast in Oklahoma, Louisiana and other states.

"Video news releases" of this sort have been used in the US since the 1980s, but the way they blur the lines between news and advertising troubles many media experts and campaigners.

The government defended the videos, which Democrats described as "disturbing". "The use of video news releases is a common, routine practice in government and the private sector," a health department spokesman told the New York Times.

VNRs are also used in Europe but a furore surrounding a Greenpeace video package about its campaign to prevent the dumping of Shell's Brent Spar oil platform sent to British broadcasters some years ago led to new rules clamping down on their use.

Greenpeace's sophisticated media offensive - including the provision of emotive film footage of its occupation of the platform - resulted in one-dimensional coverage by BBC and ITN, news chiefs admitted at the time.

Guidelines were subsequently drawn up to label video news releases as such - a category which the regular Osama bin Laden videos now fall.





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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 04:22 pm
Hardly deceitful at all, that.

Another instance, again brought to our attention by a Brit observer, involved the much-televised toppling of the Sadaam stature. It was actually a statue of one of Sadaam's doubles.
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tony2481
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 05:07 pm
"my Way News: Rosie to have alien baby!!!"
If the report was so flawed to reflect a false trend, CNN would have a two hour special about the "lying administration," Michael Moore would have a movie out in France about it, and there would be three "insider" penned books about it for sale. Not to mention, a noteworthy news organization would bring it up (and most likely misrepresent the facts). I do think many of Bush's policies are wrong, but considering the alternative, we just have to make sure congress weeds out all the bad stuff. John Kerry, considering his voting record, would have this country run like France in 4 years.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 05:11 pm
Bush never had to go up the ranks in a corporation to become a CEO nor have any corporation pining for his services as a CEO. His business ventures would not be held up a exemplary nor would they be especially effective if he had ventured out in the business jungle to take such a position. His lack of leadership and management skills are being exposed month after month and yet we still have those who would believe he's doing a good job.

If he really doesn't know what is going on underneath his nose maybe he should crack open a new bag of pretzels.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 11 Jun, 2004 07:43 pm
Re: "my Way News: Rosie to have alien baby!!!"
tony2481 wrote:
If the report was so flawed to reflect a false trend, CNN would have a two hour special about the "lying administration," Michael Moore would have a movie out in France about it, and there would be three "insider" penned books about it for sale. Not to mention, a noteworthy news organization would bring it up (and most likely misrepresent the facts). I do think many of Bush's policies are wrong, but considering the alternative, we just have to make sure congress weeds out all the bad stuff. John Kerry, considering his voting record, would have this country run like France in 4 years.


Welcome to a2k tony

The report WAS flawed, and flawed in the direction which made the administration's claims look truthful when in fact they were false. Simple fact. A lack of appropriate press address to the falsehoods doesn't make the falsehoods something other than falsehoods, it just demonstrates that the press was either to trusting or too lazy. Counting on congress, that is, THIS congress with a Republican majority under Tom Delay, to weed out the bad stuff is...well, a tad optimistic. And as regards the Kerry/France bit of color there at the end of your post....what exactly do you refer to here? Please be specific.
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