@cicerone imposter,
Quote:Most Muslim countries are peaceful.
And as we've had this conversation multiple times, you well know that has never been a debate with me.
That most Muslims are peaceful (countries are somewhat different to discuss), I've acknowledged numerous times.
The debate I have is with the ideology that drives fundamentalist violence in Islam - which in large part relates to more violent side Mohammed's life & teachings.
To a lesser extent, I have issues with:
- the lack of integration into other cultures, which the Quran pretty much commands
- the hate & intolerance in the Quran towards other religions, which isn't debatable (its an easy to see)
- the concept of Umma, which while a pretty idea, contributes to much of the hatred experienced by that percentage of Muslims that 'radicalises'
All of these contribute to the 'radicalisation' / fundamentalist violence that we see from a small percentage. Of course, even a small percentage, if dedicated, can have a disproportionate affect.
Of course, I also have other criticisms, including how in many Islamic Countries, other groups are treated as second class citizens, with less credibility in law, less rights to build non-islamic religious centres, etc.
But you already know this. We've had this conversation any number of times.