@oralloy,
Quote:Those estimates are gross overcounts regardless of what they counted.
Every time Saddam's government concocted a claim about dead civilians, those bogus claims went right into those death tallies.
Later, during the insurgency, every time the insurgents concocted a bogus claim of civilian casualties, those got counted too.
Do you have sources verifying such claims, or are you just making things up while claiming to tell the truth?
I'm not sure if you noticed, but one source I linked estimate the death toll at higher than the Iraqi govt's estimate.
Quote:We are not in any way responsible for Muslims choosing to massacre each other.
I never said you were - I said such is part of the true cost of an invasion.
Ie.
No war, deaths per year = A
After war, deaths per year = B
The difference between A and B is part of the true cost.
Further, those deaths do not need to come just from violence, but from other sources where, but for the war, the survival rate would be higher, eg still births.
This is part of the true cost of any invasion. You can argue otherwise, but it's pretty much like an ostrich putting it's head in the sand.