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Are there any peaceful muslim nations?

 
 
layman
 
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Fri 20 Mar, 2015 10:56 pm
@coldjoint,
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I have said it before and will say it again. It is rapidly approaching the "whatever it takes" stage. I could care less how Islam is stopped as long as it is


Aren't we supposed to have a shitload of ICBMs, just sitting around getting dusty?
Ionus
 
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Fri 20 Mar, 2015 10:59 pm
@coldjoint,
I agree with you on broad principle but I do care how Islamic fundamentalism is stopped . In one of your previous posts you covered some good methods . Russia, China, India and Asia also have Muslim "problems" . They might come on board . Good Muslim countries could be admitted on a success basis .

I disagree it is the "whatever it takes" stage . We are winning, but it will be a long war, maybe a hundred years .
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 20 Mar, 2015 10:59 pm
@layman,
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Aren't we supposed to have a shitload of ICBMs, just sitting around getting dusty?


If you are trying to get me to say kill all the Muslims, you are out of luck. Ask someone else your loaded questions.
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Ionus
 
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Fri 20 Mar, 2015 11:02 pm
@layman,
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Aren't we supposed to have a shitload of ICBMs, just sitting around getting dusty?
Pakistan has nukes . What about Iran's nuclear program ? North Korea is always looking for trouble . A suicide pilot on a commercial flight with a nuke cargo...that would make our eyes water .
coldjoint
 
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Fri 20 Mar, 2015 11:10 pm
@Ionus,
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Pakistan has nukes . What about Iran's nuclear program ? North Korea is always looking for trouble


Iran is run by 12ers. Do you know what 12ers are? They will use a nuke if they get one.
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layman
 
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Fri 20 Mar, 2015 11:17 pm
@coldjoint,
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One exception to that might be the insane Iraq/Iran war, where it finally came down to 10 year old Sunni muslims on one side shooting rifles at 9 year old Shiite muslims on the other.

Enough said about the insanity that is Islam.


Says here:
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95,000 Iranian child soldiers were made casualties during the Iran–Iraq War, mostly between the ages of 16-17, but a few even younger than that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

They would use 6 and 7 year olds as "minesweepers." The kids were told to roll across known mine field until they blew up. Their family was then sent a card with a stick-on star, like you used to get in grade-school, showing that their son/daughter was a "certified martyr."

After a few years they developed an "improved technique" for implementing this procedure. They would first put the kids in blankets, before they got to rolling. That way, their body parts weren't scattered all over creation when they hit a mine, and they could send home to the family some semblance of a corpse that could be given a celebratory burial.

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The Islamic Revolution of Iran was strengthened and radicalised.[165] The Iranian government-owned Etelaat newspaper wrote, "There is not a single school or town that is excluded from the happiness of 'holy defence' of the nation, from drinking the exquisite elixir of martyrdom, or from the sweet death of the martyr, who dies in order to live forever in paradise."
layman
 
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Fri 20 Mar, 2015 11:33 pm
@layman,
Says here:

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These men of Allah are urged to use every "stratagem of war," to kill and take the disbelievers as captives. The ones they do not kill, mostly women and children, they take as booty of war and slaves.

"Every stratagem" means every stratagem. No heinous act is out of bounds for these savages. They place children, for instance, in the backseat of a car bomb so that it can be waved through checkpoints without inspection. Then, the adults park the car in the midst of a shopping crowd, run out of the car, and detonate it with the children inside. Horrific? Shocking? Barbaric? These are the same people who used thousands of Iranian children as minesweepers during the Iran-Iraq war to clear a path for their more valued armored vehicles.


That's just a small fraction of what they say here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/12/iran_negotiating_with_the_devil.html#ixzz3UzlqN84R

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izzythepush
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 03:38 am
@layman,
Like they're the only ones.

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A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields.

Palestinian children in Gaza and the West Bank, occupied by Israel in the 1967 war, are routinely denied registration of their birth and access to health care, decent schools and clean water, the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child said.

"Palestinian children arrested by (Israeli) military and police are systematically subject to degrading treatment, and often to acts of torture, are interrogated in Hebrew, a language they did not understand, and sign confessions in Hebrew in order to be released," it said in a report.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.530993
izzythepush
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 04:37 am
This is as good a place as any to post this. Someone saying the pledge of allegiance in their mother tongue causes offence, if that language happens to be Arabic. It doesn't matter how pro American and law abiding Moslems are they'll always be damned by the likes of Coldjoint and Vikorr.

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A school in New York state has apologised after receiving complaints because a student recited the US Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic.

The school's foreign language department arranged for the pledge to be read in a different language each day for a week.

Complaints were received from people who lost family in Afghanistan and from Jewish parents, an official said.

Neither the US nor New York state has an official language.

The school district superintendant, Joan Carbone, told the Times Herald-Record newspaper that the Arabic pledge had "divided the school in half" and that she had received numerous complaints.

A statement from the district apologised "to any students, staff or community members who found this activity disrespectful" and said the reading was intended to "promote the fact that those who speak a language other than English still pledge to salute this great country".

An Arabic-speaking student read the pledge during morning announcements at Pine Bush High School in Pine Bush, New York, on Wednesday.

Officials said the school's foreign language department organised for different pledge translations to be read in celebration of National Foreign Language Week.


Many students reportedly shouted their disapproval during the recitation, and later complained on social media.

Later in the afternoon, the school's principal made a school-wide announcement to explain why the pledge was read in Arabic and to apologise to those who took offence.

Ms Carbone said the pledge would only be read in English in the future.

The school's student leader, Andrew Zink, who is in charge of the morning announcements, told the local newspapers that he knew the reading would attract controversy.

He permitted it to go forward, because he believed it was "the right thing to do".

"All Americans who value our nation's history of religious and ethnic diversity should be concerned" by the reaction and subsequent apology, said Sadyia Khalique, a spokeswoman for the New York chapter of the Council of American-Islamic Relations.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/31989874
Ionus
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 04:44 am
@izzythepush,
Are you aware the main reason the Palestinians have not been resettled is their own authorities wont let them . They want them to stay there and cause political power . In the words of Yasser Arafat, the womb is his main weapon . By breeding people in those camps, he hoped the problem would get worse and then someone who cared more for his people than he does would force Israel to take them back .

Dont cite the UN as an authority on anything . They are incompetent and are so politicised they make US politics seem bi-partisan . They recently released a report saying the Australian Government had failed in its duty to refugees . They didnt even bother to check that many of those doing the report had spent so long doing it, we had a new government and most of the problems had been fixed . UN committees are a gravy train for fools .
Ionus
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 04:47 am
@izzythepush,
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Neither the US nor New York state has an official language.
No official language and Canada has two . Couldnt you meet half way ?
izzythepush
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 04:52 am
@Ionus,
I'm not American.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 04:55 am
@Ionus,
Yasser Arafat is long dead. Palestinians are denied travel documents. They don't even let the football team compete in international events.

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Israeli authorities have denied a Palestine football official a permit to travel to a FIFA Congress in Brazil this week, it has been claimed.


In a statement, the Palestine Football Association (PFA) claimed deputy secretary general Mohammad Ammassi was denied permission by Israel to travel from Gaza to the West Bank, which would have allowed him to fly to Brazil via Jordan.

"This is not the first time Mr Ammassi has been denied a travel permit," the PFA added in its statement.

"Israeli authorities have nothing against him, which clearly makes this rejection a temperamental and arbitrary measure that does not help the efforts to find a solution to the situation of Palestinian football."

Ammassi was "the third officially registered delegate" of the PFA set to travel to Brazil for the FIFA Congress, scheduled to take place tomorrow and Wednesday (June 11), which will continue discussions on the ongoing Israel-Palestine situation.


http://www.insidethegames.biz/sports/summer/football/1020617-palestine-official-denied-permit-by-israel-to-travel-to-fifa-congress-claims-fa
Ionus
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 05:12 am
@izzythepush,
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I'm not American.
You little charmer...you know just what to say.. Wink
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Ionus
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 05:16 am
@izzythepush,
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Palestinians are denied travel documents.
Yes, they are denied travel documents . More than 1.5 million individuals, live in 58 recognized Palestine refugee camps in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Gaza Strip, West Bank, and Jordan . They are not allowed to move out .
izzythepush
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 06:02 am
@Ionus,
With the exception of West Bank and Gaza what say do the Palestinians have over where their citizens can go? Why should they have to leave their homes anyway? Who will take them? I can't see Europe, America or Australia welcoming them with open arms.

The only answer is a two state solution that involves ending the occupation of the WB, the siege of Gaza and dismantling the illegal settlements. Until this happens it will go on and on serving as a symbol of the West's disdain for the Palestinians and acting as a recruiting sergeant for Islamic extremists.
Ionus
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 07:11 am
@izzythepush,
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Who will take them?
Many Arab nations have offered to resettle them . Saudi Arabia offered to finance it . The Palestinian authorities wont let them leave .
izzythepush
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 07:16 am
@Ionus,
It's not as simple as that. Palestinians in Dubai, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are one step up from slave labour. The PA couldn't stop Jordan/Syria/Egypt resettling the Palestinians if they wanted to
Ionus
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 07:19 am
@izzythepush,
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The PA couldn't stop Jordan/Syria/Egypt resettling the Palestinians if they wanted to
Why is that ?
izzythepush
 
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Sat 21 Mar, 2015 07:23 am
@Ionus,
Because the PA has no power over said countries.
 

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