Are there any peaceful muslim nations?

Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2014 10:06 am
Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace
"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

2014.11.01 (Logar, Afghanistan) - Eleven Afghans are pulled into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2014.10.31 (Gombe, Nigeria) - Pro-Sharia activists set off three bombs near rush-hour traffic at a bus station, killing eight innocents.
2014.10.30 (Kampi ya Chui, DRC) - Fourteen villagers are hacked to death by ADF-NALU.
2014.10.30 (Ramadi, Iraq) - The Islamic State rounds up one-hundred and fifty Iraqi men from their villages, executes them and throws their bodies into a mass grave.
2014.10.29 (Hit, Iraq) - Forty-six Iraqis are bound and executed in cold blood by the Islamic State.
2014.10.28 (Uba, Nigeria) - A lecturer and his family are among dozens killed when Boko Haram overrun a small town.

* Sources for individual incidents can be provided upon request.

Every day. Day in, day out.

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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2014 10:18 am
Why do liberals try to revise history, and whitewash the war against us? How is it any more justifiable to minimize the atrocities against us committed by Islamic fascists than it would have been to minimize the atrocities committed by Nazi fascists?

Downplaying the crimes of the terrorists, and even suggesting we are somehow to blame – isn’t that like saying “Hitler wasn’t as bad as people say, and besides, the Jews provoked him”?

We didn’t think that was in the 1940s. We do now, because liberals have abolished the ideas of good and evil as too judgmental. Terrorists? No, our enemies are actually victims themselves, you see. We are privileged. Society is to blame.

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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2014 10:21 am
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2014 01:06 pm
None of 1-3 is an accurate represention of my position (which I've stated too many times for you already). The consistency of your unethical behaviour is predictable.
Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2014 03:45 pm
So 1. is not your position? So you don't think anyone commits violence in the name of Islam?
cicerone imposter
Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2014 05:07 pm
vikorr doesn't even know or understands that he continually contradicts himself. LOL
Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2014 11:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
vikorr doesn't even know or understands that he continually contradicts himself. LOL

One example of that contradiction o' wise one.
Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2014 11:17 am

NOTE: This is all legal according to Islamic law (sharia), booty divided up between the jihadi maraurders in accordance with the dictates of the koran, hadiths and sira.

No contradiction there.

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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2014 11:43 am

End 1,400 Years of Terror

There are sensible ways to tackle Islamic terrorism and make the future safer for the world. The problem is not that there are no solutions. The problem is that politicians are not bothered to act. They are unwilling to implement what it takes to end MUSLIM ISLAMIC terrorism once and for all, and undo the damages poor political policies have caused:

Islam must be made illegal and defined as a foreign fascist ideology, not a religion.
Ban and demolish all mosques. Believe us be: every single mosque in the West contribute to terror funding by ‘donations for Muslim causes’. Jihad is the core foundation of Islam and a duty. Each and every mosque goer is expected to contribute in some way or the other.
Ban the Koran and burn them; block the content from being accessed online.
Halal tortured meat, a major funding source towards terrorism, must be fully and completely banned.
Remove all practicing and religious Muslims from the West. Completely. Deport them by canceling residency, revoking passports, and cancelling visas on basis of incompatibility and ineligibility.
Countries that refuse / block to take Muslim immigrants back to their own countries need to be fined and sanctioned. Muslims deported to their home countries should be booked on a one-way flight, disembarked in their homeland and left at the airport for local officials to deal with. It is irrelevant if the countries will accept to take them back or not: that option to chose should not be obligatory. Refusal should be heavily fined.
Ban all trade with and from the Muslim (majority and ruling) world.
Ban all travels to and from the Muslim world.

All sales of properties owned by Muslims in the West need to be revoked of all ownership. The properties should be resold at market value. Funds should be used to cover the losses caused by Muslim immigration (welfare, housing, prison system, healthcare, security) and the massive bill for legal costs, law enforcement, national intelligence, etc., for the removal of Muslims from Western society and the elimination of Islam.
Ban all banking and payments to and from the Muslim (majority and ruling) world to other non-Muslim countries.
Ban all investments to and from the Muslim world.
All “charitable” funding and accounts raised by Islamic organizations in the West are to be frozen. Funds should be allocated to the government for tackling Islamic terrorism.

End the entire oil trade with the Muslims. The oil trade continues to be an endless source of Islamic terrorism.
Sanctions on Muslim countries from trading in oil to non-Muslim nations should be made active until a total trade ban is put in place. (We need a permanent replacement for oil for all our energy needs).
Muslims who are in prison in the West, before they are deported, must be separated from non-Muslims. No special privileges for gatherings, prayer meetings, food, mingling or religion are to be provided
Muslim charged with plotting, planning or committing terrorism should be executed. As an option, a bilateral agreement can be signed with Saudi Arabia to execute them sharia-style by beheading.
Muslims must be permanently banned from any jobs within law enforcement, immigration, government.
Borders must be protected with three levels of boundaries with clear warnings within each boundary. Illegals forcing their way into the third boundary to be shot on forced entry at their own volition.

Hmm.. Some of these things can be done. If you wish to preserve the freedom you enjoy for future generations we had better get started.


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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2014 11:45 am
One example of that contradiction o' wise one.

I get a thumbs down instead of an example? Must be no examples out there.
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2014 11:53 am

First comments on political correctness?
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2014 11:57 am

He is right, isn't he?
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Reply Sun 2 Nov, 2014 12:16 pm
Some stats for you

The Effect of Muslim Demographics

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges. When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.
The following analysis of Islamic influence and Muslim demographics around the world is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, “Slavery, Terrorism & Islam: Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat”.
Here’s how it works:.
Muslim Immigration And The Prolonged Effect On The Political And Social Net Of Society

Islam’s Effect On Society At 0%-2%

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Ireland — Muslim 2%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

1.8% Muslim population in Norway: In 2011 Norwegian authorities reported that 100% of all rapes in the entire capital, Oslo, were committed by immigrants of which 90% were committed by Muslim immigrants.

Islam’s Effect On Society At 2%-5%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Germany — Muslim 3.7% (now 5.4% since this report was made)
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7% (now 3.3% since this report was made)
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
Islam’s Effect On Society At 5%-9%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Australia — Muslim 6%
Belgium — Muslim 6%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

Muslim population 5%: In Sweden nearly all of 77.6% of total rapes in the country, are committed by Muslim migrants. In 2012 the capital experienced a 69% surge in the Muslim rape wave of its women. What will be the violence and assault report when the Muslim population doubles, and triples, and quadruples?

Islam’s Effect On Society At 10%-19%

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
Bulgaria — Muslim 10%
Central Africa — Muslim 15%
India — Muslim 14.6%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

Islam’s Effect On Society At 20%-39%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
Suriname — Muslim 19.6%
Thailand — Muslim 35%
Togo — Muslim 20%

Islam’s Effect On Society At 40%-60%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, non-stop church destruction, Boko Haram, etc., such as in:

Albania — Muslim 38.8%-85%
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Guinea Bissau — Muslim 50%
Ivory Coast — Muslim 40%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
Nigeria – Muslim 50%

Islam’s Effect On Society At 60%-80%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Kazakhstan — 65%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

Note: Slavery was reintroduced into Sudan under increased Muslim political rule and establishment of Sharia law. In 1995, Human Rights Watch first reported on slavery in Sudan in the context of the Second Sudanese Civil War. In 1996, two more reports emerged, one by a United Nations representative and another by reporters from the Baltimore Sun.

Islam’s Effect On Society At 80%-99%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Mali – Muslim 90%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

Islam’s Effect On Society

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

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Reply Mon 3 Nov, 2014 11:41 am

The UK has had heroes, they have ignored them.
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2014 10:13 pm

An enraged mob tortured a Pakistani Christian couple and incinerated their bodies in a brick kiln in eastern Pakistan on Tuesday after they were accused of burning a Quran, police officials said.

The killings, which happened in the town of Kot Radha Kishan in Punjab province, was the latest violent outbreak of religious intolerance in Pakistan, where members of minorities are frequently accused of blasphemy.

The two victims, Shahzad Masih and Shama Masih, who had four children and were believed to be in their mid-20s, both worked as laborers at a local brick kiln. The accusations against them began after burned pages of the Quran were said to have been found in their trash.

On Tuesday, as word spread, the couple was locked up in a room adjacent to the brick kiln by their employer, Yousaf Gujjar, who also had a running dispute with the couple over money. Some accounts in local news media suggested that Gujjar accused them of blasphemy after they refused to repay money he had lent them.
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:45 am
2 Cor 11:14-15
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

II Th 2:3-5
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

II Th 2:10-12
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

II Jn 1:7-11
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

I Jn 4:15
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.

Matt 10:32-33
32 "Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven.
33 "But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.

XXX I cant see any hope for muslim because they cant confess that Jesus is the Son of God.

John 5:21-24
21 "For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.
22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 11:35 am
PAKISTAN: A Christian couple's legs broken, and burnt alive on fabricated charges of blasphemy by a Kiln Owner


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