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2004 Elections: Democratic Party Contenders

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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 12:17 pm
D'artagnan wrote:
It certainly looks that way, fbaezer. If he doesn't do well in Washington, he might as well bag it...


If people in Washington State like you, D'Artagnan, are undecided between Clark and Kerry, then Dean is doomed.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 12:41 pm
I think Dean was doomed a while back. He has already come out and said that he will back whoever is the parties choice. To me, it appears that the party has never been better...............
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 12:52 pm
Friends of mine had a Clark poster in their window for months. It disappeared after New Hampshire. I asked one of them about it, and he said that he and his wife decided Clark was toast, and they were supporting Kerry.

It was the first indication I saw of the current trend: Many (most?) Democrats want to nominate the guy who can beat Bush. Period. The differences between the various contenders (now that Lieberman is out) are minor enough to go with that strategy. At this point, I agree!
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 01:04 pm
In regard to Kerry, I would hate to be the front runner simply because I was less of a loser than the other candidates. This whole nomination has nothing to do with what is good for the country, it's just about replacing another guy.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 01:26 pm
Replacing the other guy and what's good for the country aren't mutually exclusive, Brand X. For many people, that's the whole point.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 01:28 pm
That is the undeniable crux of the Dem sentiment.
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yeahman
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 02:20 pm
So Kerry/Edwards it is.
I saw Elliot Spitzer backing Kerry. There's our new Attorney General.
Hopefully Richardson will accept Secretary of State.
Will Clark be able to get Kerry's nod for Secretary of Defense? That is the unanswered question now.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 02:42 pm
The big loser is currently in the seat of power - anyone is better..................................
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fishin
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 02:44 pm
ye110man wrote:
So Kerry/Edwards it is.


"Kerry/Edwards it is" what?
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yeahman
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 02:47 pm
fishin' wrote:
ye110man wrote:
So Kerry/Edwards it is.


"Kerry/Edwards it is" what?

The Democratic presidental ticket.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:05 pm
BillW wrote:
The big loser is currently in the seat of power - anyone is better..................................


It's thinking like this that will be the downfall of the US.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:13 pm
I can't see Kerry and Edwards working together, they seem to be an ego clash.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:16 pm
Whole lotta people have been predicting various Administration posts for the losing contenders.

But, err - I dont really know enough to say this for sure - but isnt it actually rather rare for losing primary contenders to resuurface within the winner's administration?

I think theres some wishful thinking going on here on the part of people who think they can support A and still not lose B and/or C ...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:17 pm
Brand X, I wouldn't have thought that untiil your mention of it. I think you're right about the ego clash. Edwards is a bit younger with less (life)experiences in both politics and many other things, so I think it'll be a bad match to Kerry who has voted on both democratic and republican initiatives.
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fishin
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:19 pm
ye110man wrote:
fishin' wrote:
ye110man wrote:
So Kerry/Edwards it is.


"Kerry/Edwards it is" what?

The Democratic presidental ticket.


I personally don't think that's ever going to happen. Kerry doesn't need what Edwards brings to the table.

Should Kerry manage to pull of winning the nod I'd look for one of 3 names to show up as his VP pick; Pelosi, Boxer or Feinstein. That gives him 3 women (to help with drawing the female voters) from the west coast (to consilidate the East and West costs) and all 3 are politically to his left (which gives him more of a centerist appearance).
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:19 pm
I might even add that Clark doesn't seem like the type to 'work' for anyone as in being a VP. The campaign may have humbled him a bit though.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:22 pm
If a Dem does win out they may have big plans but it's still largely a Repub congress, gridlock would be nice for about 8 years.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:51 pm
Gridlock would be nice, but they'll manage to pass more legislation to spend our children's money.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:52 pm
Both Kerry and Edwards are now `defeating´ Bush in the polls ...

http://www.pollingreport.com/images/CNNgnl.GIF
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:53 pm
I really like Kerry's numbers against Bush, because it has that momentum to make is really meaningful. Wink
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