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Thu 27 May, 2004 10:29 am
Ralph Nader polling results show how much he's helping Bush, not Kerry:
http://www.dontvoteralph.net/pollwatch.htm
Interesting, but not surprising that Fox News polls is the only showing Nader hurting Bush.
BBB
LOL
I find it hilarious how democrats fear Ralph Nader siphoning votes from John Kerry.
If John Kerry is such a bloody wonderful candidate with better ideas on how to run the country, he should have no trouble beating an incompetent stumblebum like George Bush. A good product sells itself.
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Nader isn't "siphoning" my vote from anyone. Kerry lost my vote because is spineless and disappointing and he doesn't represent me on the issues that are most important to me.
Kerry is helping Bush, not Nader. (Of course Bush is returning the favor and helping Kerry). If Kerry loses this race of two pathetic candidates by self-destructing quicker than Bush does, it will be his own fault.
It is ironic that the Democrats, most of who support Kerry because they don't like Bush, get upset at voters who support Nader because we don't like Kerry.
I would not vote for Kerry (or Bush) even if Nader wasn't running. I am grateful that Nader gives people like me, who aren't ashamed to be liberal and progressive, a way to have our vote counted.
Well, BBB? I think the boy needs all the help he can get.
I second ebrown's motion and vote we elect Nader.
Well, okay, Kucinich too.
What the hell was wrong with Dean? At least he had the courage to scream.
Kucinich gets my vote. Nader doesn't take away votes from Kerry; Kerry takes away votes from Kerry. How stupid of anybody to imply Nader takes away votes from Kerry.
Hmm - it is pretty simple, isn't it, CI?
There are two people to vote for if you are against Bush.
There is only one Bush.
Not sure how many folk voting Nader woulda voted for Bush.
Don't think it is many.
Don't think Nader will be elected.
dlowan, Not really; in 2000 I voted for Nader. I didn't vote for Bush or that guy who created the internet. Both Gore and Bush didn't deserve my vote.
To his everlasting regret, "that guy" also created the electoral college
cicerone imposter wrote:dlowan, Not really; in 2000 I voted for Nader. I didn't vote for Bush or that guy who created the internet. Both Gore and Bush didn't deserve my vote.
No - but had you not voted Nader, what would you have done?
We have the "freedom" not to vote for any candidate on the ballot.
Sure - but my point is that I think MOST people who bothered to vote for Nader - or do bother - would prolly vote against Bush - ie have voted Gore, or would vote Kerry.
I accept that some folk will only vote if there is someone they really like - and not vote otherwise - but you'd be pushing it uphill to make me believe that Nader didn't/won't split the anti-Bush vote.
Therefore, unless nader wins - and I don't think anyone seriously thinks he will, do they (?) he will have cost kerry votes - mebbe enough to lose. He may well have caused Gore to lose - I don't know enough about how votes panned out last time to know.
Whether this is a problem or not depends on your views - but I think it is very likely a fact.
cicerone imposter wrote:We have the "freedom" not to vote for any candidate on the ballot.
PS LOL! So do we. We have to front up if our names are on the roll - but we don't have to vote.