@Setanta,
What the hell..your observation is redundant?....who cares?., So someone can have a voice beyond that of remedial English . Possible. I find it hard to know you know passion..JUST SAYING.
@Germlat,
Aw, poor baby . . . wants to pick a fight? Good luck with that, let us know if anyone takes the bait.
@Setanta,
You're always acting big, which means you're incredibly small. The more you bluff, the smaller you demonstrate yourself to be.
@contrex,
A distinct possibility . . . but i don't know enough about his private life.
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Quote:•Sexual Blame Avoidance - (See my ex, above.) Women are socialized to not seek out sex lest they be considered tramps, but if they're having sex against their will they can avoid guilt.
How many innocent men had found themselves charge with rape and even found guilty of rape due to the above?
I guess you don't understand the meaning of fantasy.
@parados,
parados wrote:
BillRM wrote:
Quote:•Sexual Blame Avoidance - (See my ex, above.) Women are socialized to not seek out sex lest they be considered tramps, but if they're having sex against their will they can avoid guilt.
How many innocent men had found themselves charge with rape and even found guilty of rape due to the above?
I guess you don't understand the meaning of fantasy.
Some have a short imagination. Women are as imaginative as men...and as any creature. In the end...we all want what we can control...
@Germlat,
It's "we all want what we can't have" and "we want more answers than we have in questions", that applies itself right behind the former statement.
@One Eyed Mind,
One Eyed Mind wrote:
It's "we all want what we can't have" and "we want more answers than we have in questions", that applies itself right behind the former statement.
. I don't agree necessarily....some are driven by those they can control as the outcome is delightful....
@Germlat,
It is vile dishonesty to quote someone, and then alter what they've written. I'm not at all surprised to see you take that low road.
@Germlat,
This goes back to my discussion with my friend, when I explained to him that people do not use drugs; drugs use them. When someone is addicted to something and does it for chemical sensation that lasts temporarily, instead of something universal that lasts for a life time, they are, indeed, not in control.
@One Eyed Mind,
One Eyed Mind wrote:
This goes back to my discussion with my friend, when I explained to him that people do not use drugs; drugs use them. When someone is addicted to something and does it for chemical sensation that lasts temporarily, instead of something universal that lasts for a life time, they are, indeed, not in control.
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I'm on board with this quote. But sex is a different thing. A drug in a sense but...different.
@Germlat,
Sex (reproduction) or Sex (senseless indulgence)? I'm not saying I condemn it, by all means, but I certainly know my way around the Universe to say that the way we treat sex is no different than the way we treat our chemicals.
@One Eyed Mind,
One Eyed Mind wrote:
Sex (reproduction) or Sex (senseless indulgence)? I'm not saying I condemn it, by all means, but I certainly know my way around the Universe to say that the way we treat sex is no different than the way we treat our chemicals.
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I'd say to a certain extent... Many of us are aware these are only chemicals. At the end of the day many if us can control impulses.
@Germlat,
Controlling impulses is not a sign that you're in control. Those impulses are exactly why you're not in control. The hunger is there, you're simply denying that hunger, but that hunger is still an addiction. Until that hunger is eliminated from your psyche, you will never have a clear consciousness with dark desires eating away at you from the back-side of your mind.
@One Eyed Mind,
One Eyed Mind wrote:
Controlling impulses is not a sign that you're in control. Those impulses are exactly why you're not in control. The hunger is there, you're simply denying that hunger, but that hunger is still an addiction. Until that hunger is eliminated from your psyche, you will never have a clear consciousness with dark desires eating away at you from the back-side of your mind.
Giving in to every impulse is not healthy though. I'm not a beast without discernment. I know what sexual impulses are and what place they deserve in my life. I am in control.
@Germlat,
Impulses are natural, it's when you let them control your life and make you second-guess your decisions when it becomes unnatural. Like right now, I am implying the discussion "Is sex a sign of mental dysfunction", as I have previously given arguments on how sex functions on a mental level, along with the implications of its inversed behavior (e.g people's fetishes seem to always be the exact opposite of the person's morals). But you don't seem to want to go head on into the discussion because you're holding onto sex for some reason.
@One Eyed Mind,
One Eyed Mind wrote:
Impulses are natural, it's when you let them control your life and make you second-guess your decisions when it becomes unnatural. Like right now, I am implying the discussion "Is sex a sign of mental dysfunction", as I have previously given arguments on how sex functions on a mental level, along with the implications of its inversed behavior (e.g people's fetishes seem to always be the exact opposite of the person's morals). But you don't seem to want to go head on into the discussion because you're holding onto sex for some reason.
Your wrong. I actually agree with you. I think sex is the "tip" of the iceberg. But--very important nevertheless .
Hi. I am the OP. I think you're making this too complicated. The fact is, some men watch porn (lots, according to the stats) and unfortunately some men (not all) go to great lengths to say they don't and end up hurt or in annoying situations when it comes out that they do. I have seen it happen, and hence my post about being up front about it. If the guy watches it, being honest can prevent future problems. Everybody is on the same page, computers can be kept seperate from access by kids, etc. Is it uncomfortable for some men (not all) to be honest about it? Apparently so. But sometimes you have to do things that are uncomfortable. It's really that simple. A man who isn't honest about it risks a lot of unnecessary stress or heartache. That is all. Peace.
@SharingtheLove,
SharingtheLove wrote:
Hi. I am the OP. I think you're making this too complicated. The fact is, some men watch porn (lots, according to the stats) and unfortunately some men (not all) go to great lengths to say they don't and end up hurt or in annoying situations when it comes out that they do. I have seen it happen, and hence my post about being up front about it. If the guy watches it, being honest can prevent future problems. Everybody is on the same page, computers can be kept seperate from access by kids, etc. Is it uncomfortable for some men (not all) to be honest about it? Apparently so. But sometimes you have to do things that are uncomfortable. It's really that simple. A man who isn't honest about it risks a lot of unnecessary stress or heartache. That is all. Peace.
I don't think anyone is criticizing you. It sounds ok to me. Many women do it too. So what? As long as the fantasy doesn't interfere with reality...
