The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

You're not really saying much other than disagreeing with Bob. Most of what he was saying was that there was a connection.

You accept there is a connection then? The problem you have is disaffected young men. Some of them are seduced by extremism, others now see killing a policeman as a justified act in an ongoing civil rights struggle.

Until you get rid of the root of the problem it's only going to get worse. How many disaffected young men do you think will feel inspired by Brinsley's actions? I reckon a fair few, and in a country where guns are freely available killing a policeman is quite easy.

Just look the recent assassination of the two police officers... only NYP can stop this madness... by presenting apologies and promising changes in their department.

Who has said killing police is a good idea?

Maybe its time racist murdering police get to worry about driving while "blue". Now that the forces get some skin in the game they'll find it easier to treat people right.

**** off **** for brains.

The man was quoted on TV as having said, if they kill one of ours, kill one of them. I had hoped we had the spark of a civil rights advancement in the works, but this could be the spark to a civil war

WilliamPenn:

Regarding the two NY cops, let me get this entirely straight...
Some asshole shoots up a school and kills a pile of kids...and I lament the event and bring up the excessive preponderance of guns in our society...and I get accused of politicizing a tragedy.

Some asshole shoots two cops, and the former fa-chrissakes Governor of New York says "Sickened by these barbaric acts, which sadly are a predictable outcome of divisive anti-cop rhetoric of Eric Holder and Mayor de Blasio" because people are peacefully protesting excessive police violence...and that's NOT politicizing a tragedy?

Jesus.

I have said it a thousand times, and will likely have to say it a thousand times again until the lesson takes hold for all to hear:

The single greatest political strength of these right-wing fuckwits is their utter and complete lack of shame. They will say anything - literally anything - if they think it will move the ball a few yards down the field in their favor.

Comprehensively nauseating.

You're very good at putting words in people's mouths. You more or less accused me of supporting killing the police. In light of what's happened are you saying there are no 'racist murdering' police? do you insist they're all squeaky clean.

I didn't read Bobsal saying "all" police are racist and murderous, but lets not let what people actually say stand in the way of rushing to judgement.

If police are made more aware of racial sensitivities as a result, isn't that a good thing?

... the recent assassination of the two police officers... only NYP can stop this ... by presenting apologies and promising changes in their department.

The man can get his rage in words that are eloquent. I wouldn't change a bit of it. Maybe a bit more rage.

Eric Smith

To those I know on Facebook and in person who have said to me that premeditated assassination of officers is the proper response to what has been happening, I say, now what? To those in law enforcement & on the Far Right, who have glorified the deaths of Michael Brown, Eric Garner and justified police genocide of the poor and the black for too long; now that your callous cruelty towards those who you are charged with protecting has led one of them to step from the shadows and slay one of your own, where do you say we go from here?

What will it be America, "chaos or community", in the words of Dr. King? This cycle of violence will not stop unless both sides decide to end it and because it is ultimately the brutal conduct of law enforcement which created this violent environment, the onus thus falls on it to initiate appropriate reforms and change its collective attitudes & conduct towards those who are minority from that of an occupying army to a positive force dedicated to maintaining order, and treating all the people they are charged with protecting with dignity and respect regardless of where they live, what their income level is, or the color of their skin.

America stands on the precipice of anarchy. Today we as a nation are far closer to chaos than community. Token talk will no longer suffice and neither will a continued refusal to address those complex issues of race and class which continue to roil the politics and pervert the attitudes & conduct of a nation which bases its very existence on the idea that neither is relevant; that race and class have no place in American life, culture, or law.

If we as a society continue to tolerate police misconduct and if our political leaders continue to scapegoat an entire group of people because of their color and economic level in order to justify such misconduct, then yesterday's tragic events will surely become the new normal and if that happens none of us will be safe for just as the people needs law enforcement to protect them, so too does law enforcement need the trust of those same people in order to be protected itself.

Destroy that trust and anarchy will inevitably reign supreme and it is in the cesspool of anarchy that evil acts are most effectively incubated and transformed from violent thoughts to violent deeds. We can stop this but we must change our attitudes and our conduct. We must collectively stop glorifying violence and we must especially stop making excuses for its misuse by our public servants in law enforcement under the banner of law and order.

It is in law in enforcement where this cycle of violence has begun and thus it falls upon law enforcement to make those necessary changes needed to rebuild the trust of those poor & black communities in order for this cycle of violence to end. To merely dismiss yesterday's atrocity as that of a crazed lone wolf is to make inevitable more such crazed wolves leaping from the shadows and leaving in their wake even more heartbreak, chaos, and death since doing this will do nothing to drain that cesspool of distrust that has served to incubate their madness and give fuel to their hate in the first place

When I am carrying I find myself going way out of my way to avoid any possibility of having a conflict with someone that might escalation into violence.

Of course, I never go looking for trouble but when I am armed my trouble antenna is working overtime for like most legally armed citizen I am not looking to find myself needing to used that firearm.

If they hadn't been murdered, those two cops wouldn't have been murdered. Maybe its time racist murdering police get to worry about driving while "blue". Now that the forces get some skin in the game they'll find it easier to treat people right.