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The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 04:40 pm
@izzythepush,
That could be a new signature line for me, I'll think about it.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 04:42 pm
@izzythepush,
See how this gets turned into another debate about the subject we weren't talking about? It's your way Izzy. Just like Rex, when you can't answer a question you turn the debate around and go on the attack and drag the subject so far from what it was, that no one keeps track of the **** you say.

BTW, I never said you hacked the site, that was your word choice. I claimed you might have had admin rights and could make changes others can not. When I post responses to your posts, and your posts are done and my response is there? We now know you have 10 minutes to delete a post, and I know that is what you did.

I fell for it again. Wasted time on his BS instead of the actual subject.
tony5732
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 05:00 pm
@Baldimo,
I LOVE IZZY! He is funny, he is from England, he is very obviously racist, he has no idea what he is talking about, he has no intention on finding out more about what he is talking about, he comes up with the cutest things to say when the little bit of intelligent thought he has leaves him (poop comments), and he is a hypocrite. My FAVORITE thing about Izzy though, is that he's LIBERAL. He makes a good mockery of what the left is trying to say, just by joining the cause.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 05:08 pm
@ossobuco,
Thanks.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 05:13 pm
@Baldimo,
The subject we were talking about? You insulting me. You think I should join in on that?

Stop fannying about with semantics, you said I was editing/deleting other user's accounts. Whether or not you actually used the word hack is neither here nor there.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 10:22 pm
@Baldimo,
You're one of three nitwits who can't keep on topic, dummy.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 10:26 pm
@tony5732,
That's stupid even for you. You rail on about Iraq, Russia, France etc, you aren't from those countries and you've never read any of their newspapers.

Dumbshit.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 10:33 pm
@Baldimo,
It hadn't been put on the radio, dummy. It was never put on the radio. Where do you dig that lie up from????

In an interview published in last weeks New Yorker he said he never stopped the two for the less than $5.00 robbery of the convenience store, he told them to get out of the street and walk on the side walk, He stopped when they mouthed off.

Quit reading only RW blogs.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 24 Aug, 2015 10:42 pm
Ferguson judge withdraws all arrest warrants before 2015 [View all]
Source: CNN

The municipal court judge in Ferguson, Missouri, on Monday announced sweeping changes to the city's court system, including an order to withdraw all arrest warrants issued in that city before December 31, 2014.

Municipal Court Judge Donald McCullin, who was appointed in June, also changed the conditions for pretrial release. According to a press release put out by Ferguson, all defendants will be given new court dates with alternative penalties like payment plans or community service.

Ferguson became the focal point of a national debate about race and policing in August 2014, after then-city police Officer Darren Wilson, who is white, shot and killed teenager Michael Brown, who is black.

A grand jury declined to charge Wilson in that case. Yet protests surrounding it also revealed other issues involving Ferguson police and the municipal court system.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/24/us/ferguson-missouri-court-changes/


ETA: Earlier CNN story (Aug. 6): One year later: Ferguson is still pumping out arrest warrants
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 02:14 am
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
I know you know we US whities vary.




Of course I do. There's plenty of decent white Americans like you and Bob out there.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 03:27 am
Posted this on another thread, it seems appropriate here. If the police find it so easy to get a respected cartoonist fired from the supine LA Times why should we take American newspapers seriously? If the behaviour of US Media run up to the war in Iraq isn't evidence enough this confirms it.

Quote:
Ted Rall’s book Snowden, out this week, could not be debuting at a stranger time for its embattled and controversial author, given the bizarre parallels between his subject’s experiences with state surveillance and his own. In Snowden, Rall chronicles the rise of Edward Snowden as he becomes aware of massive, overreaching state monitoring of our private lives – at the precise moment when secret state surveillance on Rall’s past life would bring his work with the Los Angeles Times to a screeching halt.

But why did Edward Snowden, well-documented in these pages and in the Oscar-winning documentary Citizenfour, need to be captured in cartoon form? Rall’s long-planned project about the NSA whistleblower was a natural for cartooning, he said last week in a phone interview.

“When I read Glenn Greenwald about Snowden,” Rall said, he was overwhelmed by “how complicated the story is”.


Rall believed that the Snowden affair is also “something a YA [Young Adult] audience could get into”. And his book, at 225 pages long, is actually extremely useful even to someone who knows the Snowden story relatively well. Rall clearly lays the story out in a comprehensive, surprisingly enjoyable way, and his signature, colorfully wry figures in text-heavy panels lend a whimsy and absurdity which match Snowden’s saga.

Rall says he was most interested in the subject because Snowden had “a compelling story. I was also really interested in the existential dilemma he faced.” But clearly, it has now struck other chords with him. Rall’s experience with the LAPD (and the relative silence of most of his media colleagues) is not a complete reflection of Snowden’s with the feds, but it has its resemblances.


The book was out of his hands, printed and on its way to bookstores, when Rall realized he, too, was going to face an existential dilemma involving government surveillance. In July, Rall got a phone call from the Los Angeles Times, where for years he’d had “the best gig I ever had” as a cartoonist and blogger, even though, he told me, it only paid $300 a week.

Rall found out he was under investigation by his client about a May blog post he had drawn and written about an encounter he had had in 2001 with the LAPD. The Times believed he had exaggerated or lied about his exchange with the police officer.

Rall was baffled and confused that “an audio tape for my arrest for jaywalking 14 years ago had been slipped surreptitiously to the Los Angeles Times, in order to get me fired because,” he says, police “didn’t like my cartoon”. Yet a few days after he learned about it, Times opinion editor Nicholas Goldberg posted a note saying: “Rall’s future work will not appear in The Times.”

Rall “had no idea” the LAPD cop was audio-taping him at the time of his arrest, and he’s suspicious of the idea that the tape still existed 14 years later. In fact, he doesn’t believe in its authenticity all. He thinks the tape was “spliced and edited”, that the arresting cop “whistled” to manipulate the mic, and that there are “clicks” which show the tape was tampered with. At best, Rall says, the tape is “just a muddled mess” which might not “prove my story, but certainly doesn’t prove theirs”.
Rall compares the tape to the “singing in A Clockwork Orange, which is happening while raping and killing is going on”. Rall had the tape “enhanced” by an audio expert, a process which he says reveals a pedestrian saying “why’d you handcuff him?” and exonerates him of the claim by the Los Angeles Times that he lied about being handcuffed. When we spoke, he was upset that the Times “wouldn’t even look at the new evidence”.

But a few days later, the Times responded publicly, saying it had listened to both versions of the audio, “had two forensic audio experts analyze” them, and it stood by its previous note. Rall has since responded, questioning the motivation of the police and asking for an independent review of the audio – as the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists has also requested.

Rall thinks he was set up by the Los Angeles police union, as a warning shot to journalists who write critical stories about police. “I was easy to get rid of,” Rall says. “I was a contractor. There would be no scene of me cleaning out my desk.”

The intent, Rall believes, was not just to discredit him, but to warn any writer or citizen that he or she could be attacked if an original police report doesn’t match his or her own account. He mentions that “only 1.6%” of LAPD complaints are found by the LAPD to have merit, a figure from an oft-cited academic study from Harvard’s Kennedy School which found that “of the 2,368 complaints the LAPD closed in 2008 that involved an allegation of discourtesy, 39 (1.6%) were sustained”. The odds of any one citizen’s memory of a bad encounter with the LAPD matching the department’s own report are pretty slim.
Rall’s story lines up with his book’s account about Snowden in the effect both stories have as chilling tools. State surveillance, and the punishment which surrounds it, silences critics of a police state. In Snowden’s case, the whistleblower fears so much for his freedom that he has remained outside the United States since he let the public know about the breadth of US spying on its own citizens. He was demonized by much of the traditional media. For exposing the massive surveillance state, Snowden’s reward, if he were to return home, would probably be no better than that of Chelsea Manning, who was sentenced to 35 years in prison for whistleblowing and who was threatened with solitary confinement in connection with banned reading material and expired toothpaste.

Rall’s fate may not ultimately be as dramatic as Snowden’s. But he, too, has heard the warning in these stories about the costs paid by whistleblowers. And he’s right: there is something “weird” about the way, in his case: “The police walk[ed] said tape over to a newspaper in an attempt to get a cartoonist known for not liking cops fired.”



http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/aug/24/los-angeles-times-cartoonist-ted-rall-fired-edward-snowden-book?CMP=twt_books_b-gdnbooks

There is no liberal bias in American media, nor a liberal elite, that's just another lie spread by Fox News and its drones like Baldy TonyFw and Chicken Little. The elite is resolutely conservative, and the Media is one of the most right wing in the developed world.

http://rall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/2013-06-26.jpg
tony5732
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 04:09 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Name ONE time I said anything about any of that. Quote me.
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tony5732
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 04:54 am
@izzythepush,
The reason you should take U.S. Newspaper seriously is because you are not living in the U.S. All you have is a fairytale image of who these people are and what they do.

You are not HERE.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lisZ1om5YAA

you don't understand THIS

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xY1c87CoaQg

Starts with THIS

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mkOfqIXkBRE
(Mike Brown Robbing the store)

And the victims are people who work here.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sbv6QGhXj7g

Or HERE
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh0Ze_6AnV0

If you won't read at least look at some pictures. This is happening.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 05:10 am
@tony5732,
You're not in any position to tell people what they don't understand.

Your media is seriously compromised, your broadcasters are actually allowed to knowingly lie.

And a load of youtube vids from your fellow fascists are not worth the time of day.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 06:39 am
@tony5732,
Izzy for some reason remind me of Lord Haw-Haw of WW2 frame.
NSFW (view)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 09:05 am
@BillRM,
You remind me of Gary Glitter. Of kiddy fiddling fame.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/27/article-1049642-026DF47900000578-168_233x297.jpg
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tony5732
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 09:29 am
@izzythepush,
In this debate I am. That's why I gave you videos. Videos don't lie. That is Black Lives Matter on camera. Not just your happy sappy peace walk crap your English newspaper sells.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 09:33 am
@tony5732,
Videos lie all the time, they can be staged or edited. And clicking on a link from someone you don't trust is a bloody stupid thing to do.

Not forgetting I've got far better things to do with my time.

If you want to play Reasoning Logic go and do it with someone else. I'm not interested.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 25 Aug, 2015 09:39 am
@tony5732,
tony5732 wrote:
. Not just your happy sappy peace walk crap your English newspaper sells.


Anyone who describes a universally respected newspaper as such is a ******* moron.

 

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