The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

Only becuse you are in denial about your own case racism.

Someone told me you own a restaurant. I believe they were lied to.

Please show me where I said people outside America are not people, and please explain how saying this isn't racist as all hell.

"I've yet to meet a black American I don't like. They're normal, you can talk to them without having to explain everything, they actually get irony.
White Americans are something else entirely, there's a lot of decent ones, but some are like something from another planet, no sense of irony whatsoever, far right religious nutjobs with an overinflated sense of their own importance."
Izzythepush

Just because you used the word American does not mean it's not racist Izzy. The same applies with you assuming "You're probably doing the job you're capable of, I suspect your black colleagues could do better." Izzythepush. You didn't even bother using the American word there, you just assume my BLACK colleagues can do better on no bases other than you know they are black.

Racism is assuming something on the basis of color which you are doing.
Do you understand how hypocritical you are? I never said anything about race, but you say these things and call others racist. I'm not going to sit here and call you names but I will say you might want to do some self -reflection and REALLY think hard about what you are saying before accusing ANYONE of being racist.

By lazily assuming black American means black man you're implying non Americans aren't people.

The problem is you have very limited writing skills and most of the time you don't really know what you're actually saying. That's also the reason I think you're working at the top of your game, whereas your black colleagues who aren't the beneficiaries of white privilege probably aren't.

I get paid to explain basic things to stupid people amongst other things. I'll be damned if I'm going to spend my free time doing it.

I didn't lazily assume anything. Or imply it. Just because you are talking about white and black in a specific place does not mean you are not being racist. While you can say what you want about me you have no knowledge about my black colleague other than skin color, and assuming he is better just because he is black is racism.

I think tony is nuance blind. Everything is all inclusive and right now this moment for him. His only test for reality is if he sees it.

Life is a series of arm wrasslin' matchs. Its not about facts or the truth or about any other living person but tony. He's "keepin' score."

Pure persistence in his mind is confused for perseverance in an argument. Like debate is purely about the last word whether its crap or not. If he doesn't have the fact or the truth he'll get by: insisting 'louder' and getting nasty. Its a sort of bullying done by some who felt bullied as a child. Someone who got the most nuggies and wedgies at school.

Other than that, he's a cipher to me.

Like I said you have very limited writing skills. Most of the time you're not even aware of what you're saying. Or if you are aware you then clumsily pretend you weren't doing something. Even Max does it better, and he's **** at it.

And you're right. I don't know anything about your black colleague, but given the choice between you and a complete unknown my sympathies would always lie with the stranger. That's got nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with what I think of you.

We are not arguing facts we are arguing perspective. The facts are the same, they just mean different things. Like this. "The purple officer was attempting to arrest the pink man accused of child rape. The pink man charged the officer with a knife. The purple officer shot and killed the pink man".

You see "The PURPLE OFFICER was attempting to arrest the PINK MAN accused of child rape. The pink man charged the officer with a knife. The PURPLE OFFICER SHOT AND KILLED THE PINK MAN".

I see ""The purple officer was attempting to arrest the pink man accused of CHILD RAPE. The pink man CHARGED THE OFFICER WITH A KNIFE. THE purple OFFICER SHOT and killed the pink man".

It's the same sentence, with the same facts, but we are mad for different reasons.

I am saying that using the word American doesn't spare a comment from being racist when this is said

"I've yet to meet a black American I don't like. They're normal, you can talk to them without having to explain everything, they actually get irony.
white Americans are something else entirely, there's a lot of decent ones, but some are like something from another planet, no sense of irony whatsoever, far right religious nutjobs with an overinflated sense of their own importance."-Izzythepush

You are still labeling people on the bases of color. The location can be zoomed in or out as far as you want it's still racist.

I can say "I never met a purple American who didn't belong in jail and they are criminals, but pink Americans usually follow the law and were raised better," That would be racist towards purple people.

I can also say "I never met a purple person in my town that I like, but all the pink ones are awesome." That's still racist towards purple

I'm not labelling people on the basis of colour but on experience. I met a lot of Americans on holiday in Mexico, and some were downright weird. No sense of irony at all, a profound fear of anyone who wasn't American, and a profound ignorance of all manner of things.

The way they spoke to the Mexicans was appalling too, unbelievably imperialist and incredibly rude. They had a real, completely undeserved, sense of self importance and were so ******* loud.

I never said all the white Americans, there were plenty of decent ones you could have a beer with, but there was a definite group of complete arseholes. It wasn't just me who noticed it, everyone else noticed it too.

all sorts of idiotic ****, doesn't mean it's not ****.

If I was racist towards white Americans I wouldn't get on with so many here on A2K. It's the arseholes I don't like. You're confusing racist with arseist, it's a mistake arseholes often make. It's better than dealing with reality.

arseist. lol.

I well get that now, years later.

er, sorry, I don't always keep up.

Still listening, still from Los Angeles.

The statement was racist, Izzy. Regardless of where you went on vacation or whether you think I am an " arsehole", the statements you make are racist. I was just explaining why.

And I was explaining why you don't know what racist means. What you can't get over is that neither Bob nor myself are remotely interested in anything you have to say. You were the one who ran over like a little puppy desperate to be noticed saying remember me? Well we don't, and it's easy to see why?

Why not start your own thread(s) so you can talk to like minded individuals? Promise I won't go anywhere near it.

Boy you sure to lay the bullshit on thick.....you have been responding to him often and at length.

If you want to be taken seriously you will need to at least plausibly be telling the truth.

That's what you always say. I must be important you're responding to me. If that's all you've got to go on you're really clutching at straws.

I may put him on ignore if I can be arsed. At the moment I'm quite happy taking the piss.

I am not really worried about you or bobsal, that's all of two people. You two can thumb eachother till the end of time as far as I am concerned. I am watching riots, shootings, killing, and stealing that I am watching creep closer and closer to my neighborhood. All it takes is one liberal to cry "racist" and all hell breaks loose. There is more than one side here that should be represented.

It is also kind of sickening having bobsal squack and you just agree with everything he says and run the whole thread like that. You don't seem to know anything about this except you met a couple Americans in Mexico and saw something (but obviously not everything) on your English news channel. You are like a liberal bobble-head doll.

There are other people though who do not agree with you, and they are not alone.

They arnt just in Mexico, there is a hell of a bunch of them here were I live in the U S.