@giujohn,
Quote:Your first problem is that you are listening to people who have no clue as to the intent of the framers re; the Second Ammendment. You need to read the federalist Papers and people like George Mason, Alexander Hamilton and the people THEY read like John Locke.
If you dont have the volition to do so I suggest you get a copy of the Second Amendment Primer by Les Adams so you can at least have a basic understanding and not sound like an idiot.
Remember...police departments didnt come into vouge until the mid 1800s and only in cities like Philadelphia and NYC. Before that was "The Watch".
Initially run by a combination of obligatory and voluntary participation, the 17th century watch typically reported fires, maintained order in the streets, raised the “hue and cry” (pursuing suspected criminals with loud cries to raise alarm), and captured and arrested lawbreakers...citizens were expected to come to the aid of the Watch and assist, therefore they needed to be armed.
(if Im going to keep teaching you, you need to give me your credit card info)
You don't understand what is going on.
The States that require a license to own guns, are making mandatory those classes. The "trainers" are explaining that the Second Amendment is not for self defense or kill the beasts of the forest but that was made to prevent tyranny in the US.
To whom a person who will apply for such a license will follow:
1)- to you who can't even answer a question where this Second Amendment is applied to be enforced (check the example of the California vote rejected by its Governor over The People's will),
2)- or, to a trainer who is responsible for applicants to learn why they have the right to keep and bear arms thanks to the Constitutional Amendment?
So far, you have no credibility.
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Out of topic
Working for government in the past, I heard lots of laughs from guys working temporarily in our building. The dude making the stories was as funny as hell. His stories were from days when he was in the army. He HAD TO BE discharged after he pushed a button (the way he told his story) and caused an emergency when a million dollars missile had to be destroyed because he caused it to aunch... just by curiosity.
After that, he was given a job as a police officer. Because him, his partner was almost killed but was badly wounded when he insisted that a gang member was the one who committed a recent crime. He caused an ambush against them. The partner had no other choice but to report him. He was discharged as a police officer.
Then, he was put in another government agency as a maintenance worker. He was asked to paint an office, but he hated painting. He informed his boss that he can do anything but painting. His boss warned him to obey otherwise his job was at risk to be terminated. He took a five gallon paint, and two brushes and when the supervisor returned to that office he can't believe what he saw. Our man painted "everything", walls, carpet floor, windows, doors, desks, phones... everything.
The way he told his stories were the best, I truly miss that dude and his army, police and maintenance worker experiences.
But about you, also army, perhaps police officer, I know that if you are given five gallons of paint and two brushes, that whatever you'll do when them, it will be bored.
