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Should I cut my losses?

 
 
Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:15 pm
So heres the story, I am divorced, but still holding on to HIM. Im stuck, because there is a part of me that still really loves him. He is such as an ASS, though. The reason we are divorced is because it is more important to him to go out drink, screw around, and lie to me. He has lied so much I dont know when he is telling the truth. We have a daughter together, and he supports us finianclly. He thinks if he gives us money he is a good man. Im not sure, what to think. All that I wanted was to have a loving family and I really hope that he is going to realize that his family is important. I thought maybe he was just young and this would all end soon, but now that we are in are mid 20's I think this is who he is. I feel like I am done. But there is so much guilt like I am just giving up on my family. I am so hurt and miserable, we have been divorced foe 2 1/2 years now. And forget about having a talk with him he refuses! I am not sure WHAT to do ....
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:21 pm
I would say it's time to move on. If he hasn't changed by now, he probably never will.

If you don't end it now, thirty years down the road you're going to be sitting in your rocking chair, reflecting back on your life, and wondering why you didn't do the right thing years ago.

Good luck
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:24 pm
Take the money and accept that he is not a good man. You cannot change him. This idea that a woman can change a man is an emotional trap. Don't get sucked in. Thank god you have custody of the daughter.
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Christinagome
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:26 pm
Yes I have made that VERY clear he will never have custody of our daughter!
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:27 pm
Good. Now it is indeed time to just cut your losses and be rid of this toxic man, except for the money.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:28 pm
Yes, it's cold, but it's what he deserves.
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Christinagome
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:35 pm
Im scared that I might be making a mistake, thats why I am hesitant. But for the first time I finally feel ready.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:38 pm
It's great that you feel ready to let go. Believe me, you are not making a mistake. Your heart has already told you what to do. Do you really want a drunken, cheating, lying bastard in your life? I'm just going on what you have posted here.
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Christinagome
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:41 pm
No I dont, and that what I have. Im really disappointed and sad, I expected more from him. Im ashamed that I let this go on for so long
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:46 pm
Well, then the only thing to do is to move on, and be grateful that you have your daughter. Take joy in that, and 'cut your losses'.
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fishin
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:53 pm
I'm a little confused on what "losses" remain to be cut. You've already been divorced for over 2 years now. What do you expect to remain at this point?
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Christinagome
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 02:57 pm
Ya I think thats best, thanks for the little push
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Christinagome
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 03:03 pm
The loss would be: no relationship at all
He probably wont give me $$ anymore
HE probably wont see my daughter much
We have some sort of realtionship, that would end
The divorce was a mere formality on my part
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SCoates
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 03:32 pm
I just wanted to extend sympathy. It's just a sad story.
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fishin
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 06:45 pm
Christinagome wrote:
The loss would be: no relationship at all
He probably wont give me $$ anymore
HE probably wont see my daughter much
We have some sort of realtionship, that would end
The divorce was a mere formality on my part


Hmmm.. I guess I can understand all of that but.. on the flip side you can devote your time and energy into developing a healthy relationship with someone else (or yourself even if that's needed) - something I suspect you haven't been working on.

Good luck to you!
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 07:11 pm
gustavratzenhofer wrote:
I would say it's time to move on. If he hasn't changed by now, he probably never will.

If you don't end it now, thirty years down the road you're going to be sitting in your rocking chair, reflecting back on your life, and wondering why you didn't do the right thing years ago.

Good luck


Yes, I agree with Gus. It IS time, if you can manage it, Christina. What you see is what you get with him, unfortunately. <sigh> You deserve better that just putting your own life on hold indefinitely, waiting & hoping that he will grow up one day. He might never grow up. Sad, isn't it?
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Peter S
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 01:14 am
You should live on your own life. Take care for your daughter, children are such a great joy. Good luck!
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 06:00 am
It is not unusual for people to be reticent in making the final step in severing a relationship. After all, no relationship is ALL bad. You had a child with this man, and you two have history together.

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He is such as an ASS, though. The reason we are divorced is because it is more important to him to go out drink, screw around, and lie to me. He has lied so much I dont know when he is telling the truth.


This quote says it all. You were very wise to give this man the heave-ho. A person like that is nothing but TROUBLE, and that kind of trouble never stops.
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The loss would be: no relationship at all
He probably wont give me $$ anymore


I don't understand something. You have had a daughter together. He will be in your life in terms of what is best for the child. The difference is, he will be out of YOUR PERSONAL LIFE.

There are many couples who have this situation. I was divorced, many years ago, with a small child. I had nothing to do with my ex personally, but we did have our son in common, so any relationship that we did have was around him.

If you are worried about the monetary support, you can always take him to court.

Something struck me. Are you still sleeping with him?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 10:53 am
If you are legally divorced, he is still obligated to pay you support. It is sad that this does often become problematic, but you do have the system at your advantage. Phoenix raised an interesting question, you are not still involved with him sexually are you?
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jespah
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 11:28 am
Christinagome wrote:
The loss would be: no relationship at all


No great loss, right? I'm with Phoenix, I get the feeling you're not telling us something here.


Christinagome wrote:
He probably wont give me $$ anymore


Not true. You have a child support order and possibly also an order for separate maintenance (alimony). If he stops paying, you go back to family court and have the judge make him pay. Most likely, if this guy is as irresponsible as you are indicating, the judge will require his paycheck to be garnished. What that means is that your support would be a payroll deduction (like taxes), and it would be deposited directly into your account.

Do not hesitate to exercise your legal rights in this matter. Your daughter's circumstances (whether you'll be able to afford food, clothes, books, medicines, etc. for her) depend upon this. It may be the difference between keeping a roof over your heads, or not. Don't worry about what he thinks if you haul him back to court in order to get him to pay. What his comfort level is is not really relevant when it comes to making sure your daughter has enough to eat. The judge will make sure that he (your ex) doesn't starve, either.

Christinagome wrote:
HE probably wont see my daughter much


His loss. And, unfortunately, your daughter's, too, so you'll need to be extra-attentive. But he's a big boy. If he wants a relationship with your daughter (his daughter, too), he'll seek her out and, when your daughter is older, she may want to do the same. Make her available and don't badmouth him in front of her. Every child needs to feel that both of their parents are good people, because that relates directly to the child's sense of self-worth. If he comes around, great. If he doesn't, your daughter will know that you did not stand in the way and that the lack of a relationship between her and him is due to your ex-husband's foolishness, rather than any sort of animosity on your part.

Christinagome wrote:
We have some sort of realtionship, that would end


So? You say you're in your mid-twenties. Think it's going to get any easier to meet men when you're in your thirties? Forties? Fifties? You need not plunge yourself into another relationship but if being with him is keeping you from seeking out someone who will treat you and your daughter with the kindness, respect and affection that you deserve, well, you're an adult. Isn't the choice an obvious one?

Christinagome wrote:
The divorce was a mere formality on my part


I don't understand this part, although my guess is that you and he were not living together at the time. If that's the case, it's still an important formality to have gone through. After all, that's why you have a child support agreement, and that frees you if you meet someone else.

Best of luck to you and your daughter.
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