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Barack Obama in the Oval Office reads this letter from Abraham Lincoln

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oristarA
 
Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 12:58 am

This is a letter written by the greatest President of the United States of America:

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I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races; that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say, in addition to this, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
- Lincoln to Stephen A. Douglas


Well, Lincoln is sometimes not a good student in the cosmological history.
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 01:19 am
@oristarA,
The same as the vast majority of the white people at that time.

Did you not have racial prejudice in your country during that period?

It is always easy to poorly judge a 19th century attitude, using a 21st century mindset.
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 04:42 am
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:

The same as the vast majority of the white people at that time.

Did you not have racial prejudice in your country during that period?

It is always easy to poorly judge a 19th century attitude, using a 21st century mindset.


Five years later, Lincoln issued The Emancipation Proclamation, which showed us how rapidly his ideas improved from this unctuous tone.
A true man indeed.
woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 06:13 am
@oristarA,
What does this have to do with Obama?
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 02:10 pm
@woiyo,
woiyo wrote:

What does this have to do with Obama?


He's a black, isn't he?
He is a disproof of what Lincoln said in the letter.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 08:11 pm
@oristarA,
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... the greatest President of the United States of America:


That's an oxymoron, Ori.

oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 18 Jun, 2014 11:28 pm
@JTT,
Welcome back, JTT.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 12:19 am
@oristarA,
Lordyaswas wrote:

The same as the vast majority of the white people at that time.

Did you not have racial prejudice in your country during that period?

It is always easy to poorly judge a 19th century attitude, using a 21st century mindset.
oristarA wrote:
Five years later, Lincoln issued The Emancipation Proclamation,
which showed us how rapidly his ideas improved from this unctuous tone.
A true man indeed.
That was a MILITARY & POLITICAL ACT, intended to
destroy Southern economic stability. I doubt that he ever repudiated
his earlier opinions.

I question that he was "the greatest President
of the United States of America" as u allege.





David
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 01:29 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


I question that he was "the greatest President
of the United States of America" as u allege.

David


Here's Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States:

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Abraham Lincoln is often considered the greatest president for his leadership during the American Civil War and his eloquence in speeches such as the Gettysburg Address.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

OmSigDAVID wrote:


That was a MILITARY & POLITICAL ACT, intended to
destroy Southern economic stability. I doubt that he ever repudiated
his earlier opinions.



Well, there is a possibility that Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was an action of political opportunism. It is your turn to prove it.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 03:09 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

Here's Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States:
Oristar, is or 's, applies to ONE thing, singular.
U wrote of a plurality: "Presidents"; accordingly,
it shud be: Here are historical . . .
(Is there a reason to capitalize "Historical"?)

I like Wikipedia and use it ofen, but in this case,
it is only someone 's personal opinion, like saying
that chicken tastes better than pork.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 09:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Oristar, is or 's, applies to ONE thing, singular.
U wrote of a plurality: "Presidents"; accordingly,
it shud be: Here are historical . . .]


OmSig knows nothing of the English language. That is/was perfectly natural English, Ori.
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