GOP Wants To Suppress Release Of Additional Photos

Transparency is closely linked to democracy. And I don't think it's a matter of national security.

One thing is transparency, another is bad taste. Massive display of the one thousand documents (pics and video) presented to the congressmen would be terrible taste.

The political point about torture is already taken. Suffice to know that we have seen only 1% of the documented abuse.
So please don't say it's only a dozen rotten apples among thousands. It's systemic.

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And clearly not confined to the US.

The Oz military used to train the Indonesian military - AND in "interrogation techniques".

Wonder who we thought they were gonna use the techniques against? Never the East Timorese, or the Irian Jaya residents etc. - of course not!

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Just to document my amazement.

mporter wrote:

a savage group of desert scum

scum towel heads

the Arab scum

They are a race that barely clambered out of the trees.

And you dare critisize the Nazis.

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I don't want to see a thousand more, I never wanted to see one, but.. as long as people radiodo (my new word) that certain jail hijinks are a bit of porn or whatever... then I acknowledge the need for the few more.

It is too damn sad.

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hi Bi-Polar Bear- Sure they do, it makes Bush and Rummy the Dummy look bad. Even worse than they already are.

But you know Fox News is planning a special to show the beheading of Nick Berg during primetime.

The right is playing it for propaganda advantage.

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Pfc. England? Larry Flynt called. Please return ASAP...

Congress, having "overdosed on depravity" (what, again?), is -- as Bear and others have indicated -- disinclined to share the latest batch of Abu Ghraib photos with the American public:

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They gathered in a secure room on Capitol Hill, as many as 150 at one time, but the pictures and slides they viewed so silenced U.S. lawmakers that one said later, he could have been in the room by himself.

Afterward, they emerged on their own or in small groups, some spitting out disgust to the waiting microphones, others appearing ashen, unsure of how to describe what their eyes had just seen.

But in the wake of the brutal videotaped murder of American Nicholas Berg, members of the U.S. Congress were split yesterday as to whether the photos and videos of abuse they had just viewed, perpetrated by their own soldiers at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison, should be released to the public.

They saw Iraqi women forced to bare their breasts, forced homosexual sex, sex between U.S. troops, hooded Iraqi prisoners forced to masturbate in front of their captors, another forced to sodomize himself. (Don't ask me. I just cut and paste this stuff, okay? -- PD)

One tactic in particular worked so well that Pfc. England used it over and over and over again:

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Shocking shots of sexcapades involving Pfc. Lynndie England were among the hundreds of X-rated photos and videos from the Abu Ghraib prison scandal shown to lawmakers in a top-secret Capitol conference room yesterday.

"She was having sex with numerous partners. It appeared to be consensual," said a lawmaker who saw the photos.

And, videos showed the disgraced soldier - made notorious in a photo showing her holding a leash looped around an Iraqi prisoner's neck - engaged in graphic sex acts with other soldiers in front of Iraqi prisoners, Pentagon officials told NBC Nightly News.

"Almost everybody was naked all the time," another lawmaker said.

Many members of Congress left the 45-minute viewing session early, thereby missing the porno performance by England, but there were enough other images of torture, humiliation and intimidation to sicken anyone.

"I don't know how these people got into our Army," said Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.).

And I am still trying to understand why our Army is there, Senator.

Did we actually invade Iraq to bring them freedom, democracy, and (quoting a certain pill-popping radio bloviator), "good old American pornography"?

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fbaezer wrote:

Just to document my amazement.

He's a charming new addition, Boss . . . he raked Walter, or attempted to rake Walter over the coals for a misspelling. When Walter asked how well he thought he would fare expressing himself in a foreign language, Mporter replied that he wouldn't make the attempt--and implied that Walter ought not to make the attempt either. You can expect that level of discourse from this new member, Boss.

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[size=7]Note to Set and Walter: ignore massagattos.[/size]

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Are we referencing the prisoner photos or the beheading? I think it will ultimately be impossible to keep the remaining prisoner photos out of public view. Remember, some of these fine soldiers used their own digital camera to posterity -- Christmas cards and such.

The beheading photos are on certain Arab websites, or so I've heard. I must say I have no interest in viewing them, although I would not deny this privie to those who disagree.

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fbaezer wrote:

Just to document my amazement.

mporter wrote:
a savage group of desert scum

scum towel heads

the Arab scum

They are a race that barely clambered out of the trees.

And you dare critisize the Nazis.

Hello, C, nice to see you again.

I've just seen and sent up a report on this person's post, something I've only had cause to do once previously in two years.

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Since I am aware of Mr. Blatham's massive erudition, I will have to retract my statements.

Number 1-Arabs are not a savage group of desert scum--Only the ones who killed and mutilated the bodies of the four civilian workers and hung the burned bodies from the bridge can qualify as a savage group of desert scum. Of course, these few did not get their orders from the top, just as the few American criminals in the Abu prison did not get their orders from the top.

Number 2-The Arabs are not scum towel heads- Only the ones that raped Private Lynch can be considered as scum towel heads.

Number 3-The Arab scum does not refer to all the Arabs- certainly not the few friends we have in the Arab world. I call those suicide bombers that go into Israeli restaurants and buses to kill innocent women and children- Arab scum.

Number 4- They are a race that barely clambered out of the trees.

I refer to the great Historian- Arnold J. Toynbee- who, in his Study of History writes:

"The primitive Muslim Arabs emulated- and thereby undid--the Macedonians work by overrunning, in twelve years, The Roman and Sasanian dominions in South-Western Asia over as wide a sweep of terrority as had once been conquered, in eleven years, by Alexander. In this Arab act of brigandage the twelve years of conquest were followed by twenty-four years of fraticidal strife. Once again, the conquerors fell on each other's swords...The same suicidal Assyrian vein of militarism was displayed by the barbarians who overran the derelict provinces of the decadent Roman Empire."

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I really do think that the US government should release all the photos in their possession. I mean all of the photos. I mean all of the photos. I mean all of the photos which show the savage mutilation of Americans by the Iraqis. Of course, those mutilations are not acts of all the Iraqis. Nor are they acts which were mandated by thier leadership.

But the acts by the few in Abu prison?

Those reflect the ignorance of the US soldiers in Iraq and their blanket hate of the Iraqis. Those acts in the Abu prison were not only approved by all of the generals up and down the line but were put into place by Rumsfeld. Some say that the "torture" was approved by Bush himself.

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