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GOP Wants To Suppress Release Of Additional Photos

 
 
Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 07:10 pm
What a surprise.....if the president was a democrat in an election year they'd be screaming about government intervention and the publics right to know.....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/12/congress.abuse/index.html
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 07:25 pm
WHat purpose would it serve to release them? People already know what they need. Punishment will be doled out and investigations are under way.

or is it the gore you want to see?
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 07:28 pm
At this point I'm not certain I want to see any more of those photo's. From what was said after the Senate preview this afternoon it seems like there is something for everybody's taste in porn.
There was an article in the Hartford Current last Sunday by two Washington Post reporters that described the work of two government lawyers who drew up the legal guidelines for these guys telling them just how far they could push the line they went over. They were anonymous of course because of the "sensitivity" of the subject. I'd like to see these guys in front of a camera explaining themselves. I want to know how far up the chain of command this this whole idea of "softening up" prisoners went. I bet we'd get some surprises or perhaps not.
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pistoff
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 07:41 pm
1,800 Photos
Also, video.

These people were industrious.

The cover-up is the sytematic humiliating, abuse, rape, and murder of "detainees" by the orders of the Penatagon urged on by GW Bush and carried out by Rumsfeld and the Gestapo.
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husker
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 08:08 pm
I do not think it serves any purpose other than political and puts our soldiers more at risk.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 08:24 pm
considering that the outcome of our situation in the world is directly tied to politics it makes sense for us to see everything. if people don't want to look they don't have to.....and don't miss my point...the republican outcry if a democratic white house did not want to release photos and videos would be huge....
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 08:27 pm
We live in a Democracy. This means a government by the people for the people.

Withholding any information from the American people goes against democracy.

There are times when pictures or other types of information must be withheld from the American people. But there should be a very compelling reason to do this.

You have it backwards.

The question "what's the purpose?" should be asked when we withhold pictures from the American people, not when we publish them.
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pistoff
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 08:36 pm
?
The truth pusts US Troops at more risk? They aren't at risk now?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 08:36 pm
I don't need to see 'em. I saw the video of the beheading, and that is enough for me for a while. I have a feeling that the worst video they have will look a lot more like a college prank though, now that I've witnessed a terrorist chopping through some innocent person's neck and then holding his disembodied head up to the camera.

I also think these pictures coming out will be bad for the United States, but there is really no way to stop them from coming out, so it is a moot point anyway.

I just keep wondering how many new terrorists are being created right now. They're getting some great pictures for their recruitment brochure.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 08:37 pm
kickycan wrote:
I don't need to see 'em. I saw the video of the beheading, and that is enough for me for a while. I have a feeling that the worst video they have will look a lot more like a college prank though, now that I've witnessed a terrorist chopping through some innocent person's neck and then holding his disembodied head up to the camera.

I also think these pictures coming out will be bad for the United States, but there is really no way to stop them from coming out, so it is a moot point anyway.

I just keep wondering how many new terrorists are being created right now. They're getting some great pictures for their recruitment brochure.


And the pictures were taken by the very people they are recruiting against. Not just shameful, but shamefully stupid.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 08:39 pm
Exactly.
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pistoff
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 08:41 pm
Photos
The photos of humiliation were the intro of the lightweight stuff although Muslims take great offense. the photo of the dead person wrapped in plastic was just a bit more than hazing. Torture, rape and murder of "detainees" can now be minimized due to a be-heading which now is under a cloud of suspicion as being staged?
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 09:07 pm
Pistoff, I didn't mean to say that the things they did weren't horrible. They are.

Of course the troops did horrible things, but as far as we know, our troops are not all doing this kind of ****--but all terrorists are murdering innocent people all the time, on purpose, with no remorse at all.

Don't forget that while we have some huge a-holes in the U.S., the terrorists are the biggest f*cking a-holes in the world.
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infowarrior
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 09:34 pm
Let the cover-up begin!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 10:15 pm
I don't want to see these photos but I want them to come out, think it is important that they do.

I know it will incite hatred to us.
And no, I am not into self hatred.

The reaction will be predictably horrible. Hiding the details..
worse. Really, all this decision making doesn't matter. Enough people despise us for decades to come.

We need to stop finessing the PR and attend to who the hell we are.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 10:21 pm
ossobuco wrote:
We need to stop finessing the PR and attend to who the hell we are.


That is so perfect, I just had to post it again.
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mporter
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2004 10:37 pm
If the American soldiers are found guilty after due process and are court-martialed and after there are more Americans slaughtered on TV by murderous terrorists who are not brought up to the bar of justice, the world will discover that the real and crucial difference between the USA and its troops and leaders and the AlQaeda is that the first operates according to the rule of law and the second is composed of a savage group of desert scum who pervert the laws of Islam.

That is the difference and it is a difference worth fighting for.

Many forget that the Nazis solved their problems with the Jews by eliminating them just as the scum towel heads are doing now to captured Americans.

When we won the war against Germany, we utilized the courts. The Nazis had a defense and due process afforded them at Nuremberg.

The guards at Abu may have committed crimes.

The Al Qaeda scum have committed crimes.

The critical difference between us and the Arab scum is that our men will be punished if they violated the law. Their men will be rewarded for their savagery.

Some of the countries in the Middle East employ savage measures. The Saudis regularly execute their citizens without due process. The Lybians are even worse. They are a race that barely clambered out of the trees. Towel headed scum who blew up the plane at Lockerbie.
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2004 12:06 am
Chances are the videos and other photographs will be released by somebody on the internet and then will be on the news anyway. So the justification seems a little lame to me.

A democrat said that the vidoes show troops on a large scale involved in abuses which kind of blows the theory of just a few bad apples being involved.

I personally don't want to see them but I do want the public to see them so that we are not left with having to "trust" those that in government that the pictures and vidoes are what they say they are.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2004 12:09 am
What Osso said.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2004 12:16 am
I remember thanking kicky and deciding in type to post that as my signature... and apparently obliterated that post. So's I'm explaining here...

not that that is a brilliant statement, it is just so obvious.
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