@izzythepush,
I don't see Buttermilk criticizing nononono when he posts this about me--which is really worse than being called a whore or bitch and right up there with the "N" word' --you might have to click the post open, it's collapsed with an
NSFW tag
http://able2know.org/topic/249143-2#post-5713035
The sort of gender-related crap being directed at the female posters by Buttermilk/nononono is plain disgusting, and it is misogyny which is a form of prejudice, and I'm not responding to posts either of them make right now, in any thread. I'm not sure that being called a whore is really worse than being called a bitch, because of the way he was throwing around bitch along with his profanity in his rant in the other thread. It was verbal abuse of female A2K members . Glitterbag even tried to tally the score.
http://able2know.org/topic/248556-5#post-5713916
Buttermilk complains that no one spoke up in the Donald Sterling thread when BillRM and Hawkeye were making clearly biased statements and overgeneralized negative comments about blacks. That's very ironic because I did speak up, loud and clear,
repeatedly, and Buttermilk acknowledged that I was the only one to do that.
Quote:But what bothers me more than this are whites who claim to have no issues with race, but remain silent when the likes of BILLRM or HAWKEYE make racial generalizations that are not only unfair, unsupported, but inherently racist.
As of recent, firefly is the only white person (forgive me if I misappropriate the wrong ethnicity to you) that is speaking out against this nonsense.
http://able2know.org/topic/242905-25#post-5661429
I do speak up about bigotry whenever I encounter it--regardless of what group it's being directed at. I said this in the Sterling thread in one response to Hawkeye:
Quote:Prejudice/bigotry is ugly, and ignorant, and it has ramifications that have a real impact on the everyday lives of those who are its targets, and ultimately on the lives of all of us. It's not innocuous speech that should just be ignored, or even worse, accepted, as legitimate opinion. It's based on over-generalized thinking and negative stereotyping, neither of which can lead to accurate perceptions or judgments. And you and BillRM both engage in that type of thinking as well, quite often, although BillRM is generally more egregious in that regard than you are.
http://able2know.org/topic/242905-25#post-5661275
Buttermilk seems to maintain two sets of standards, because, while bigotry toward blacks offends him, he has no difficulty, at all, voicing quite bigoted attitudes toward feminists as an entire group, and negatively stereotyping an
extremely large and highly diverse group, based on the fact he disagrees with two feminists he learned about in a Women's Studies course. While he can see the bias and overgeneralized thinking when BillRM, who doesn't like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, holds them up as representing all blacks, or black opinions, or all black leaders, Buttermilk then turns around and does the exact same thing regarding feminists--he uses a few examples to justify his own prejudiced attitudes toward an entire group. And while he denies misogyny, or the need to talk about it, just as one would talk about any other prejudice, he turns around and blasts an entire group of female posters in a display of his own misogyny--with a little racism and ageism thrown in.
If he is at all concerned about bigotry, at the very least he should stop hypocritically displaying it himself.
If he wants some respect from other posters he should start by giving it first. I don't care whether he's even more offensive when drunk--in vino veritas.
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Most people are sick and tired of BillRM and Hawkeye, and if they don't actually have them on ignore they pay little attention to what they say.
I don't doubt they said what they did, but I didn't see it. They're both a bunch of ******* idiots, and they've been challenged by loads of people on A2K a lot of times. Just because most people don't respond to what they say doesn't mean they agree with them, it's because talking the them is a waste of time.
Several posters in that Donald Sterling thread told him that as well, osso in particular, and I sent him a PM and told him that as well.
BillRM and Hawkeye, and Romeo as well, have been expressing the same things for years. Other posters are tired of addressing it, or even reading what they say. I do continue to confront Hawkeye and BillRM on their bigotry because I can challenge the thinking behind their attitudes. I just gave up on Romeo after a while, because he mainly does it with offensive photos regarding blacks, so I never respond to him any more, because I know he'll never change, and I doubt that anyone needs Romeo's bigotry pointed out.
But, despite being told why people might not be speaking out about biased comments, by BillRM and Hawkeye, some time ago, Buttermilk prefers to keep that chip on his shoulder and continue complaining about white folks here condoning that bigotry by their silence. Well, he's wrong about the conclusions he's drawing about that, and I say that as one who does speak up, but he's often wrong in the conclusions he draws, and that's his problem when he tries to stereotype diverse groups of people--including women and feminists and white folks.