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Myth of man-made global warming

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Tue 20 Jan, 2015 12:51 am
@Quehoniaomath,
False in every particular, quahog.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Tue 20 Jan, 2015 02:19 am
An, as said, in reality an ice age is coming!
parados
 
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Tue 20 Jan, 2015 07:11 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Good ole Q. Puts me on ignore and then complains that I am silent. He reminds me of a 3 year old that thinks they are invisible if they cover their eyes.
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MontereyJack
 
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Tue 20 Jan, 2015 09:12 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Well, true, an Ice Age IS Ccoming, but not for another twenty or thirty thousand years.
The ice ages are due to regular changes in the earth's orbit. n They're called Milankovich Cycles, and they're not due in either of our lifetimes.

But you, quahog, don't know anything about that. What your supposed expert was talking about, as you would know if you had any knowledge at all, which you clearly don't (and that includes reading comprehension, obviously). was what he claimed was a 30 YEAR CYCLE IUN THE SUN'S OUTPUT WHICH WOULD LEAD TO A MINI ICE AGE, like the Maunder Minimum of three centuries ago, which is something entirely different from a full-blown ice age, and far, far less drastic. Of course, based on the observed outcomes of his own predictions, we're not going to get that either.

Now other climate denialists regard your expert as a "scam artist" (their words) because basically he's trying to gin up sales of his own self-published books (apparently no reputable publisher would touch them). His credentials show a whole lot of resume inflaion.

He formulated his alleged solar cycle (which no one else who studies solar cycles confirms) back in 2007. He claimed the cooling effects would begin to be apparent within three years, and would be totally obvious by 2012. In fact, 2010, three years after, was at the time tied with 2005 for the warmest years on record. Now 2014, without the added kick of an el Nino, which your favorite year 1997 had, is the warmest year on record. So basically by his own predictions, he's WRONG.

Get over it, Quahog, no, we aren't going to be freezing anytime soon, unless you plan on living twenty thousand more years. You can find all kinds of loonies posting crap on the internet. Try to find someone with a tad more credibility next time. (I know you won't, you'll just find some other outlier with some other nutball hypothesis).


RABEL222
 
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Tue 20 Jan, 2015 02:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
Damn, I was so looking forward to living in an Igloo.
MontereyJack
 
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Tue 20 Jan, 2015 06:00 pm
@RABEL222,
Well, you CCOULD always do what seems to be the trendy thing these days--build one out of Legos.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Fri 23 Jan, 2015 10:09 am
Quote:
Climate change alarmists have been likened to a fanatical 'cult' by an MIT professor of meteorology.

Dr Richard Lindzen told a Massachusetts-based radio station that people who believe in global warming are becoming more hysterical in their arguments.

'As with any cult, once the mythology of the cult begins falling apart, instead of saying, oh, we were wrong, they get more and more fanatical,' he said.

But he has previously blasted the IPCC for blaming humans for a global warming trend that appears to have cooled in recent decades – and then glossing over the warming slowdown.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2922553/Global-warming-believers-like-hysterical-cult-MIT-scientist-compares-climate-alarmists-religious-fanatics.html





At the moment it is the same everywhere, evolution, biggie bangies, relativity theory, quantum ******* mechanics, black holes, ahhh well the whole of physics and cosmology. And so on and so forth. All going down!

Yippie!!!!


jft2
 
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Fri 23 Jan, 2015 11:33 am
@Pamela Rosa,
The only people who are dim on this thread, are those who believe that man-made global warming is a myth.
parados
 
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Fri 23 Jan, 2015 12:25 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Umm... Richard Lindzen believes in global warming and also believes man is contributing to the warming. The data finally was so overwhelming he couldn't deny it and still be credible.

Quote:
“Climate change is of course real; change being the normal state of affairs in climate,” Lindzen told Climate Depot. “Climate change has caused catastrophic problems on occasion throughout the earth’s history. While man may have contributed somewhat to climate change in recent years, his contribution to the above is highly questionable, and continues to be debated.”

Lindzen has been reduced to arguing that the change won't be as bad as some are predicting. While that position earns the retired scientist speaking engagements it isn't science.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Sat 24 Jan, 2015 03:35 am
@jft2,
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The only people who are dim on this thread, are those who believe that man-made global warming is a myth.


Ok, and can you explain why that is, besides the need for throwing AH's around?
jft2
 
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Sat 24 Jan, 2015 10:14 am
@Quehoniaomath,
That's easy to explain.
When it comes to issues like this, people divide themselves into 2 categories, almost always the same people in the same category, they are the progressives and the conservatives.
The Progressives are always looking to look forward, move forward and tackle whatever comes up.
The Conservatives are always looking back to 'the good old days' and talking about their values and heritage. They seem to fear the future and don't want to know about any problems we have to face up to. Thus they grasp at any single source, without questioning it's value and quote it if it supports their own backward approach.

Global warming is a reality and temperature measurements all over the planet confirm that and it cannot be denied.
Moving sideways, we find the cave-dwellers claiming that it is a natural occurrence and has nothing to do with human activity. That might have some credibility if it were not for the fact that the upward movement in average global surface temperatures coincides with the start of the industrial revolution.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/05/the-hockey-stick-the-most-controversial-chart-in-science-explained/275753/

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11646-climate-myths-the-hockey-stick-graph-has-been-proven-wrong.html#.VMPDhGd0wzs

The question is not whether there is global warming due to human activity but "what are we going to do about it?"
Quehoniaomath
 
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Sat 24 Jan, 2015 01:24 pm
@jft2,
Quote:
That's easy to explain.
When it comes to issues like this, people divide themselves into 2 categories, almost always the same people in the same category, they are the progressives and the conservatives.
The Progressives are always looking to look forward, move forward and tackle whatever comes up.
The Conservatives are always looking back to 'the good old days' and talking about their values and heritage. They seem to fear the future and don't want to know about any problems we have to face up to. Thus they grasp at any single source, without questioning it's value and quote it if it supports their own backward approach.

Global warming is a reality and temperature measurements all over the planet confirm that and it cannot be denied.
Moving sideways, we find the cave-dwellers claiming that it is a natural occurrence and has nothing to do with human activity. That might have some credibility if it were not for the fact that the upward movement in average global surface temperatures coincides with the start of the industrial revolution.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/05/the-hockey-stick-the-most-controversial-chart-in-science-explained/275753/

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11646-climate-myths-the-hockey-stick-graph-has-been-proven-wrong.html#.VMPDhGd0wzs

The question is not whether there is global warming due to human activity but "what are we going to do about it?"


Sorry to say, but this is sheer nonsense!
AGW is a political tool to take your freedoms away



Unbelievable that people buy into this shite!
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korkamann
 
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Sat 24 Jan, 2015 01:40 pm
@jft2,
Quote:

The question is not whether there is global warming due to human activity but "what are we going to do about it?"


I concur. If only politicians would leave the politics out of it. It doesn't take too much to persuade rational people of climate warming, but so many listen to these "so-called" elected leaders who're in congress for their own self-aggrandizement. It's really going to be an uphill climb to get congress on board with the ultraconservatives applying pressure saying such does not exist.
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MontereyJack
 
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Sat 24 Jan, 2015 05:17 pm
quahog says:
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AGW is a political tool to take your freedoms away


That's total nonsense. Global warminbg is a fact. We're responsible for it. And there are going to be serious consequences, some of which are happening already and will just get more severe the longer we put off action. Absolutely nothing to do with "taking freedoms away", unless, like quahog, you buy into every conspiracy theory on the block, none of which are true.
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Setanta
 
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Sat 24 Jan, 2015 06:38 pm
@parados,
I don't think we can say if human activity is causing climate change. However, to deny that the climate is changing is the height of stupidity. Between 9000 and 10,000 years ago, the climate had gotten so warm that the Arctic Ocean was ice-free in summer (some climatologists, a minority it must be said, believed that it was ice-free year round). Eight thousand two hundred years ago, the climate got cooler (do a search for the 8.2 kiloyear event. The climate warmed up, and then cooled again in what is now known as the 5.9 kiloyear event. It warmed up, and then cooled again in what is now known as the 4.2 kiloyear event. All three of those events, and the warming sequels had profound consequences for humanity. These cyclical warming and cooling events are beyond question--there is archaeological evidence for the first two, and archaeological and historical evidence for the last one. There have also been regional cooling and warming events. The politicalization of this issue is a disgusting display of putting partisanship ahead of science, the result of a special interest groups seeking their own selfish ends. We likely won't live to see it, unless a disastrous event intervenes, but the West Antarctic ice sheet is likely to detach from that continent in a century or a century and a half, and sea levels will rise at least 2 meters, or possibly three meters--at the least. That puts Miami and most of Florida under water, and endangers major cities around the world. A rise of 5 meters or more will inundate Bangladesh, and many, many areas of the world.

Our political masters, whose only interest is re-election are fiddling while Rome burns. Perhaps this isn't caused by human activity--but that's no reason not to take simple measures which don't hurt anyone except to reduce the profits of selfish capitalists.
Setanta
 
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Sat 24 Jan, 2015 09:54 pm
US Navy predicts summer ice free Arctic by 2016
Quehoniaomath
 
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Tue 27 Jan, 2015 01:24 am
@Setanta,
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US Navy predicts summer ice free Arctic by 2016


won't happen!

Haven't you remembered that when the agw hoax started they predicted that children won't know snow or ice anymore? Know take a look at New York!
They are preparing fo the ice and snow, mate!!!
parados
 
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Tue 27 Jan, 2015 10:01 am
@Quehoniaomath,
The tilt of the earth is still the same as it was 100 years ago. January is winter in the northern hemisphere. Summer is a different season because the earth is tilted in relationship to the sun.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Globespin-tilt-23.4.gif/200px-Globespin-tilt-23.4.gif
Quehoniaomath
 
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Tue 27 Jan, 2015 11:12 am
@parados,
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The tilt of the earth is still the same as it was 100 years ago. January is winter in the northern hemisphere. Summer is a different season because the earth is tilted in relationship to the sun.


So, you don't get it now, again -> ignore, again Wink
parados
 
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Tue 27 Jan, 2015 11:23 am
@Quehoniaomath,
It's been less than a week since you last ignored me. I don't think it's just the earth that has a tilt these days.
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